neurotic Iraqi wife
November 25, 2006
That Pitiful Purple Finger...
They said Thursday was the deadliest day in Iraq. Let me correct this statement. Thursday was one OF the deadliest days in Iraq and if we think this is bad, and there cant be anything worse, believe me things WILL get even worse. Maliki's government proved to the world they are puppets to the militias. In my opinion, I think all the cabinet and ministers should step down, step down and leave that darn chair.
Martial law should be put in place, and a strong military guy comes in. No militias, no Sadrists, no Badrists, no Islamists. A pure Military persona that leads with an iron fist. Gets rid of the cancer that has been created. Its beyond any persons imagination how an Iraqi, can kill another Iraqi by pouring Kerosene and burn him alive because he is Sunni. Its beyond any persons imagination how an Iraqi, can kill hundreds of Iraqis in one day because they are Shias.
We have become savages. The lid has opened and so many cockroaches and spiders crawled out of the can. I wish it was that easy. Even the coackroaches and Spiders can get killed by using an insecticide. Question is, how can you get rid of these militias and Terrorists that overtook my country??? And people say we are under occupation. Yes we are under occupation but not by the coalition forces, we are under Militia occupation. Do you hear me??? Wake up and smell the roses, oh sorry there are no roses in Iraq anymore, I should say Wake up and smell the dead carnage. Dont you dare say to me that we are occupied by these forces. State your facts clearly. WE ARE UNDER MILITIA/TERRORIST OCCUPATION...OK???
I never liked Bush, infact I loathe him for what he did to my country, but at the same time, I loathe Sadr and Hakeem, Dhari and Bin Laden. Oh and let me not leave out the greatest criminal of all, Saddam!!! The man who created all this mayhem. The man who was behind all this. And yet he is the only safe Iraqi in this country. I loathe everyone that did this to Iraq, every single one. I loathe the whole government for not standing up for the Iraqis. They just care of themselves and their own personal agendas. The tortured bodies that are found everyday dumped on the streets of Baghdad is similar and probably worse than the days of Saddam. Im ashamed, Im ashamed of that darn purple finger. Im ashamed of the day millions of Iraqis went out of their way and voted, risked their lives and voted, Voted in hope to get their saviour, instead they voted for their OWN KILLERS.
The State of Mullas and Militias, thats what Iraq has become. And you tell me occupied. Im gonna say this once and for all to all those who keep saying we are under occupation. YES we are under occupation by the peasants and the IGNORANT people that think just like you. If the forces leave just like what you want, then watch all the gardens and backyards turn into morgues. MORGUES FILLED WITH YOUR OWN PEOPLE!!!Oh I forgot, You dont give a damn shit, cuz you call yourselves Patriots!!! Patriots my A**.
If the forces leave, watch how Hakeem will give the South to Iran on a silver plate, watch how the Kurds will take the North, they deserve it, I mean after all, they atleast are united towards building their own state. Oh and let me not forget Baghdad, Baghdad will be the rogue state, that of Militias, Dharists and Bin Ladens. Yeah hell why not let the forces leave, we dont need them, we have everything under control. Oh let them leave, we are sooooo ready to takeover now. So ready!!! Whats another million Iraqi getting killed??? Its just another statistic on a piece of paper....Damn you, damn everyone who calls themself a Patriot and a nationalist. You are no where near the true meaning of these words. No where near!!! What BULLSHIT!!!
The only people that have lost here are the innocent Iraqis. They are the only victims in this game. And they will continue to be victims, until all those criminals get eradicated from the face of the earth... I repeat and say Im ashamed, Im ashamed of that day. Im ashamed of that day I voted and made my voice heard. Im ashamed of that Purple finger I proudly exhibited...Im Ashamed of that darn Purple Finger, that Pitiful Purple Finger...
Martial law should be put in place, and a strong military guy comes in. No militias, no Sadrists, no Badrists, no Islamists. A pure Military persona that leads with an iron fist. Gets rid of the cancer that has been created. Its beyond any persons imagination how an Iraqi, can kill another Iraqi by pouring Kerosene and burn him alive because he is Sunni. Its beyond any persons imagination how an Iraqi, can kill hundreds of Iraqis in one day because they are Shias.
We have become savages. The lid has opened and so many cockroaches and spiders crawled out of the can. I wish it was that easy. Even the coackroaches and Spiders can get killed by using an insecticide. Question is, how can you get rid of these militias and Terrorists that overtook my country??? And people say we are under occupation. Yes we are under occupation but not by the coalition forces, we are under Militia occupation. Do you hear me??? Wake up and smell the roses, oh sorry there are no roses in Iraq anymore, I should say Wake up and smell the dead carnage. Dont you dare say to me that we are occupied by these forces. State your facts clearly. WE ARE UNDER MILITIA/TERRORIST OCCUPATION...OK???
I never liked Bush, infact I loathe him for what he did to my country, but at the same time, I loathe Sadr and Hakeem, Dhari and Bin Laden. Oh and let me not leave out the greatest criminal of all, Saddam!!! The man who created all this mayhem. The man who was behind all this. And yet he is the only safe Iraqi in this country. I loathe everyone that did this to Iraq, every single one. I loathe the whole government for not standing up for the Iraqis. They just care of themselves and their own personal agendas. The tortured bodies that are found everyday dumped on the streets of Baghdad is similar and probably worse than the days of Saddam. Im ashamed, Im ashamed of that darn purple finger. Im ashamed of the day millions of Iraqis went out of their way and voted, risked their lives and voted, Voted in hope to get their saviour, instead they voted for their OWN KILLERS.
The State of Mullas and Militias, thats what Iraq has become. And you tell me occupied. Im gonna say this once and for all to all those who keep saying we are under occupation. YES we are under occupation by the peasants and the IGNORANT people that think just like you. If the forces leave just like what you want, then watch all the gardens and backyards turn into morgues. MORGUES FILLED WITH YOUR OWN PEOPLE!!!Oh I forgot, You dont give a damn shit, cuz you call yourselves Patriots!!! Patriots my A**.
If the forces leave, watch how Hakeem will give the South to Iran on a silver plate, watch how the Kurds will take the North, they deserve it, I mean after all, they atleast are united towards building their own state. Oh and let me not forget Baghdad, Baghdad will be the rogue state, that of Militias, Dharists and Bin Ladens. Yeah hell why not let the forces leave, we dont need them, we have everything under control. Oh let them leave, we are sooooo ready to takeover now. So ready!!! Whats another million Iraqi getting killed??? Its just another statistic on a piece of paper....Damn you, damn everyone who calls themself a Patriot and a nationalist. You are no where near the true meaning of these words. No where near!!! What BULLSHIT!!!
The only people that have lost here are the innocent Iraqis. They are the only victims in this game. And they will continue to be victims, until all those criminals get eradicated from the face of the earth... I repeat and say Im ashamed, Im ashamed of that day. Im ashamed of that day I voted and made my voice heard. Im ashamed of that Purple finger I proudly exhibited...Im Ashamed of that darn Purple Finger, that Pitiful Purple Finger...
35 Comments:
Dear NIW, What difference does it make if the forces leave or stay? especially now, today! more than a month ago we had a very long discussion on Knofused Kid's blog about the leaving/staying subject, i was one of those who feared the idea of the US forces leaving the Iraq and this would result in more bloodshed. For God's sake, does the US forces stopping this bloodshed? or at least make it less?
More than a month ago is not that long ago that makes a person like me change his mind about the mightiest force on the planet!
Instead, lets ask this question; can the US forces control the situation? if yes, why don't they move their ** and do something? if no, why? and if no, what they are doing in Iraq then? shouldn't be better if they leave because their presence is hopeless, especially that the root of the whole disaster is caused by them more than three years ago?
There is no shame of that purple finger, because you did for Iraq, the wounded Iraq. You did for the poor Iraqis who suffered enough under the tyranny of Saddam. I should not be ashamed of something I did for the people I care for and for the people I love. In your last blog about the "lost mission"you said that you came for a cause. Elections and having your finger painted purple was part of making this cause true for the Iraqis.
BUT, Iraqis have been tircked and they thought that people who used to oppose the dictator would bring propesperity to them and compensate them for all the pain that dictator put on them. Many Iraqis thought so, even when they decided to go for voting. I still remember these discussions with Iraqis here about the reason they vote for that candidate rather than the other. The reason varies, but most of them (if not all) poured in the same bucket: this candidate will make Iraq better; this candidate is representing those who suffered the mass graves; that candidate has strong personality and will bring peace and order to the country...etc
You see my dear, these are people who have hopes, but all of us have been tricked.
Bravo, great post , just when I 'm posting your last one. They keep getting better! Good Job
You know, when Saddam fell, and all the looters were out in force, carrying TV's anything they could carry under the watchful eye of the US military, I had a very bad feeling about that.
In the US looters are shot, they should have been shot,anyone caught looting, on the spot the looters then are the IED'ers of today, the looters were allowed to run free and they have become the Iraq's self appointed executioners of today.
love for you and for all the decent Iraqi people that deserve better much better. Keep up the good fight.
I feel so much sadness for all of this death and destruction. It seems so hopeless and I feel so helpless to do anything about it. What can anyone do????
I agree with you. Maliki is so tied up with puppet strings and dancing to the tune of 2 masters. He doesn't have the interest of the entire Iraqi people. His loyalty is to his puppeteers, as most of the cabinet ministers. Time for a change, we will not see anything good out of Maliki's government. Time for a military junta and martial law. Give an ultimatum for all militias and insurgents to surrender and turn-in their weapons. After the time elapsed those who will not lay down and surrender their arms will be put down hard.
You called it as you saw it. Thank you for that.
I noticed, you noticed, all readers must've noticed, nobody took me up on logically spelling out an exit strategy for the occupiers. Harumph. Just as I thought...... Thinking cooly and logically AND with a thought for your fellow man takes some effort.... You're deep in the SH*T so I don't expect you to be anything but passionate and emotional. It's goin' down and the end game will not be pretty.
Cyberray, looters were shot in LA during the riots? And very very few in New Orleans - not nearly enough in my opinion.
May God keep you and Hubby safe ms. Wife..... We appreciate your posts.
Regards,
Anonymous as usual
Therearean infinit number of ways to improve the world. The world is your oyster and other such truths.
You can amkea difference, no matter where you are, it just takes diligence.
I'm sorry, but to honest, when you work for the occupiers you become a occupier. When you make a living off the same people who dropped bombs on peoples' heads, you become an enabler to the hell unleashed upon those people, in this case, your own countrymen.
When are you going to wake up to the big picture? If you work for the very people who have contracts to rebuild the society they destroyed, you become 'one of them'.
There's a million ways to make the world a better place.
Either you are pretending to be naive or you are naive.
Who do you think is conducting 180 attacks per day on the occupation as per their own admission? Your analysis on why the occupation should keep its boot on the necks of Iraqis left out the most important group of all - the Resistance.
The filthy militias and Iranian/US death squads you complain about are only able to operate under the watchful eye and protection of the US occupation and its puppet iraqi army/police.
Are you so naive to think that hundreds and hundreds of people are simply abducted and tortured because of their sect, or that car bombs go off in markets and kill shia and sunnis for no reason?
The reason is called "creating a civil war" and the main criminal element behind this has always been the occupation and their puppets who are looking for ways to force the country into an ethnic segregation, and have the Iraqis kill one another rather than join the Resistance and fight the true enemy.
For a woman educated abroad, you are lacking in your research...
Read about what your saviours did in Vietnam when they were unable to beat the Resistance...They created death squads "opertaion Pheonix" which went around and murdered men women and children so as to terrorize the Vietnam people against supporting the Resistance...By their own addmission they murdered tens of thousands of people...Read about what your saviours did in El-Salvador (the ElSalvador option) with the creation of death squads to murder people and terrorize them against the popular Resistance...The man behind the death squads of El-Salvador being put in-place was non-other than Negroponte, who just happened to be made US embassador in Iraq for a short stint just before the sectarien killings began to spin out of control (subhanalla, what a coincidence).
When the US occupation is driven out, the Iranian/US death squads and militias and Al-Qaeda and all the other filth that was brought-in or created by the occupation will be dealt with quickly and swiftly by the only legitimate power in Iraq - the original Iraqi army and government.
Clearly, NIW is not naive.
The militias and death squads are operating under the protection of the coalition?? What in the world have you been smoking?
"The militias and death squads are operating under the protection of the coalition?? What in the world have you been smoking? "
Sherlock, when militias can dump upto 100 mutiliated bodies each day in the alleys and streets of Baghdad and not be arrested, when militias can abduct 150 people in broad daylight and pass the convoy of abductees through 3 US check-points without being stopped, when eye witnesses continue to describe US forces and/or Iraq puppet forces being in the vacinity during sectarien attacks and not responding to the plea of the people for help...that makes them complicit.
Do you deny that your government undertakes the murder of people (civilians) as a form of military and political policy? Do you deny that Operation Pheonix took place? Or the death squads of El-Salvador? Do you deny that your nation used firebombs to murder 100,000 Japanese civilians in Tokyo in 1-night, or that they used nuclear devices to murder nearly 200,000 civilians in Hiroshema and Nagasaki?
Will you defend a nation which has a proven track record for deliberate civilian murders and claim that the orchastrated efforts to have Iraqi kill Iraqi are all just a wild coincidence that occured under the US occupation?
Who is the one who has been smoking?
If the elected government of Iraq had acted like a normal and just liberal democratic government, would it have made a difference??? That, I think, is the key question.
If the elected government had truly tried to enforce a nation of laws, had truly protected the rights and equality of all its citizens, regardless of sect or religion or ethnicity, do you think it would have made a difference? If they had shown a desire to share Iraq's oil wealth equally, would it have made a difference? If they had dissolved the militias and used trained military and police force with careful discernment and due process, would it have made a difference?
Unfortunately, the al-Quaeda terrorists and the Baathist regimists and the other extremists would have continued to conduct terrorist attacks as we have been seeing. The question is, if the government had been fair, would a large block of moderate Sunnis, moderate regimists have emerged and stabilized the situation? Would they have really turned in the terrorists living among them? I just don't know. The fear and intimidation that these thugs and terrorists produce is just so strong and so hard to overcome.
Here is a report from Jan 2005 (during Negroponte's rule) confirming the birth of US sponsored "death squads" in Iraq as a new strategy to fight the Resistance:
"The Pentagon is considering forming hit squads of Kurdish and Shia fighters to target leaders of the Iraqi insurgency in a strategic shift borrowed from the American struggle against left-wing guerrillas in Central America 20 years ago.
...
Death squads were a brutal feature of Latin American politics of the time. In Argentina in the 1970s and Guatemala in the 1980s, soldiers wore uniform by day but used unmarked cars by night to kidnap and kill those hostile to the regime or their suspected sympathisers."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1433353,00.html
This was by far one of the best posts I have read about the Iraqi sitaution. Its really a shame to see whats going on there and worse that nothing much can be done about it.
This was a really good post.
Mixmax, everyone is to blame here, but whats the point of blaming now???Theres no point. Bes I will tell you this, all those that were the so called oppostion in the UK and US gave false hopes to the US. All those that came from the outside are the ones that brought in this sectarian difference. Its a shame...We had so many good prospects, but without unity nothing can be achieved...NOTHING
Cyberray, thanx alot for your continious support, Thank You
Renee, the least thing we can do is pray for all those innocent lives that are dying daily. I see no hope, I see no hope here. I wish I can, Believe me, I wish I can...
743am anon, yes thats the only way, but we need a good man, yet vicious at the same time. Someone who cares for the good of his people, but is not weak infront of those criminal militias. Thats what we need, someone honest yet strong...who can it be i have no idea...and is there anyone out there who can do that without fearing for his live, i have no idea...
857 Anon, Im against any short term exit strategy. There is no way Iraq will survive if the forces leave. All those who say they want the forces to leave are either saddam loyalists who still believe there is a future for them, or are naive enough to think that our problems will disappear once the so called "occupiers" leave...I think its total BS...
933 annon, yeah and so are all the other Iraqis who work with the so called "occupiers" Please give me a break...
1006 anon, you fell into the trap. I rest my case!!!I knew that this is coming, so you want the old gov back huh??? Did you shed tears when your leader was found in that hole???did you shed tears when the verdict was announced??? The govt you are talking abt has gone to mazbalat il tareekh...but I can agree with you on one thing and one thing only, bring back the old army, not the old govt but the army. Thats one thing I have to agree with you on, bring them just for a short time. Then let there be elections, fair elections, without any of those religeous roaches...
1040 anon, its ok, let him talk...I was waiting for him to say his only solution, and he answered my doubts very clearly...
OJ, as long as the current govt's allegiance is to Iran and syria, then no, things will stay the same. But if ppl like Alawi (a technorat) who cares none for religieous ideas then yes things would have become better. Although im not a fan of allawi, but he was the answer for this period of time. Jaafari was too weak, maliki is a puppet. There isnt a single personality in the current govt who is an honest Iraqi. They are all corrupt, every single one of them...And just now, I read abt the report of insurgents being financialy self sustained...I really dont know what the answer is...Sadr has to get arrested, his militia dismantled. Hakeem gets arrested tooo, his militia dismantled, al dhari gets arrested, his death squads all get killed...all these and more have to be arrested. The Iraqis have to breathe, they have to...
Thanx Gautam...Yup, its spiralling and spiralling and getting worse by the minute. I believe more forces should be deployed to Iraq. and the govt ousted..thats the only way...
Hi, it's Sunday morning in my neck of the woods, I have given your post some exposure, it's the real voice if the iraqi people. To talk about something else besides carnage , I find it fascinating , the different cultures, everytime I travel between some latin countries back to the US I always go thru culture shock.Latins wave their arms when they talk, they hug and kiss when they meet someone,and when they say goodbye. Not that our anglo saxon cousins are less compasionate, but they are afraid to show it. Even fathers here don't kiss their sons, only homosexual men do this, however in our culture you think nothing of seeing two old friends show affection openly.So if you ever hear me say the words 'love' don't take it personal, it's ingrained in my culture, and no two bit dictator like Castro or Chavez is ever going to change that! A la Uno, A las Dos, A La Tres!
Oh, I got a mssge from the hairy Nosed Wombat for you ,don't miss it he he!
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Neurotic wife. I don't think you do feel hopeless. If you did you wouldn't still be working to rebuild, you wouldn't bother to let your thoughts and feelings out in this blog, you wouldn't care. The strength to unify Iraq will have to come from within the Iraqi people themselves. From where, I don't know, but it will take someone strong enough to make tough decisions and stand behind them. Trying to appease the various groups of course will not work. I went to hear an Iraqi woman speak here awhile back. She made a statement that if the Iraqis wanted to, they could drive the occupiers(us) out of Iraq. We'd be glad to see our troops(our families) come home, but not with Iraq the state it's in now. Your current government may be ineffective, but none will be strong enough unless the Iraqi people themselves are willing to stand together and denounce the militias and factions causing the destruction. You are strong, the good people of Iraq do have the power, but it is up to you to discover it and to use it wisely. It has to begin at the grass roots level. After all, everything grows from it's roots. I have a growing affection for Iraq that comes from hearing from the Iraqi people themselves(and anger at times which only comes from caring). People aren't that much different no matter where they're from. Thank you for your blog.
I have to say, reading the daily news regarding the situation in Iraq is always hard. But reading about the 6 who were burned alive was revolting. I can't imagine what would make someone think of killing another human being that way. The news reports here said that there were Iraqi police and military nearby who did nothing, is that true? How can that be? My God, why would anyone do that?
nIW said...
All those who say they want the forces to leave are either saddam loyalists who still believe there is a future for them, or are naive enough to think that our problems will disappear once the so called "occupiers" leave...I think its total BS...
TOTALLY WRONG... you can't categorize on such a way, you can't put people who are against the presence of the US forces as either naive or Saddamists...
no offence, but you have no right to label those whom their hearts are bleeding for their beloved people as such. That's not fair
And yes, they are occupiers, not "the so called occupiers". You cannot defy the definition of a country invading another country. There is no other definition and US admit it.
You want more troops to be deployed. Why?? and what is the plan afterwards?? you deployed more troops and put new faces on TV as the new government, then what?? rebuild again? back to round 1? and the same country resources robbing begins once again? Deploying more troops, my dear, will put more fire to the situation. DON'T YOU GET IT??? Iraqis has been always put in war made by others. Iraqis have been always the only ones in the cross fire. No one gives a sh** about Iraqis. You deploy more troops to a war zone, a battle field, not to a country where woman, children, old men are frozen in their beds because of the horror from bombardments and from the shooting in the stree next by!
We both lived outside Iraq for years,NIW.You mentioned those who used to live in the US and UK and that they gave false hopes to the US! is this a joke? For years the US and the UK knew already what are those people who called themselves opposition. For years all attempts to put the different parties together in one conference went in vain. Anyone who follow the history of used-to-be-opposition-groups remember when the US administration arranged a meeting in New York or Washington (I don't remember which city it was). The meeting ended up having some of those "politicians" beating each other with their shoes. Did we forget when they used to meet in the UK and they can't look in the eyes of each other, even some didn't want to sit in the same room because there is someone else from another political party has arrived earlier. The US knew already that those men and women were hopeless, so there is no use to say that Chalabi tricked the US administration to invade Iraq with the story of WmD, if this what you mean. I know that the US intellegence has the most advanced technology to track the movement of a spider on a hill near the borders between Saudi Arabia and Yemen!! So it is hard to believe that they were given false hopes.
"Even fathers here don't kiss their sons, only homosexual men do this, however in our culture you think nothing of seeing two old friends show affection openly."
Hey now. I kiss my sons, always have, always will. Friends, though, whether old or young, that's a different story. I'm not gay, you know. :)
You crack me up cyberray.
Are you (neurotic wife) Muslim?
High profile bombings like the one on Thursday, especially on Sadr City, are simplified as from "Sunni insurgents", but they are almost always from Al Quaida and its small group of Sunni allies of convenience. Their purpose is to incite the volatile militias of Sadr in taking out their frustration on Sunnis in general which, unfortuately they are happy to do. The bulk of the Sunni insurgents are defending their neighborhoods and wish to live to fight another day. Maliki is continuing to show to be a dancing monkey of Sadr, but the Iraqi people, even Shiites, are tired of his hypocrisy of talking tough against militias but doing the opposite when Sadr is involved. http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/ shows the general chatter of the militias on both sides, conveniently translated into english. Although there is foreboding, except for Sadr's militias, everybody else is pretty much taking defensive positions which means full scale civil war is still on hold. Another positive is that this is a sign that normal people are not turning their heads which was the prevalent sentiment not too long ago. It is up to the Iraqi people, but it is obvious that a prime minister that has no ties with Sadr is needed to reign in the Shiite militias doing the bulk of the killing. As for Al Quaida and its "Shura council" that continues to provoke the Shiites, that is going to be a long term fight that eventually the Iraqis will have to take over completely from the USA. They need a cleaner security force instead of one that currently has the appearance of being infiltrated by Sadr's gangs. All is not lost. Pessimism will seem to be the standard mood, but the atmosphere is ripe for changes for the positive. The bulk of the Iraqi people still don't believe in sectarianism. If those people can take charge and link together, the minority who are looking for a fight can be beaten back.
Anyway your the only peasant,ignorant i know. Your just a british zionist bicth working for the occupiers, and Resistance should deal with you and all traitors like you without mercy, cause high crimes like treason had one known Punishment!
Don't you dare to claim to be Muslim or Irqi. Get the hell out of my country!
Iraqi Wife,
I don't think the U.S. will significantly increase its troop levels in Iraq. There is no political support for escalation.
I think the only thing we can do is try to pursuade the Iraqi government to find a political solution. ...
Unfortunately, as others have pointed out, the parties to the conflict all seem to believe a military solution feasible and preferable. The Sunni-extremists-former-regimists still long for the old days to return and believe they would return if only "the occupation" is ended. They apparently think they can regain power by force if the U.S. troops went home. On the other side, Al-Sadr and other other militias believe they could wipe out the Sunni-extremists-former-regime people if only they were given a free hand to use more force. Those pesky Americans are standing in the way of a quick military victory, in their way of thinking.
Thus, the only people who want a political solution seem to be the few non-radicalized Iraqis like yourself, and, of course, we Americans.
NIW,
I am sure you had a nice looking pitiful purple finger though ;)
Cyberray, to make light of the situation, in our culture, hugging and holding hands with the same sex is normal. Infact sometimes its lack of respect if you dont do it. As for the word love we also tend to say it all the time. So no, I wont take it in another manner ;-)
Solo, you have to understand that the Iraqi people are standing and shouting in the top of their voices. They even formed groups in neighbourhoods to watch over their streets from militias and gangsters. The problem is all those who raise their voice is getting murdered. Everyone who is against the situation is either getting threatened, kidnapped and then dumped on the streets. The people are furious, they are trying their best, but no one listens to them. They want to live, believe me all they wanna do is live a peaceful life. It has now become a political struggle between the various sects/militias. You bomb my place, ok, I will show you what I can do with yours...Thats how it is...
TG, yup, thats exactly what heppened, altho Talabani denied it, but yes it happened and IM not surprised nor shocked. Hatred is now running thru the veins of these extremists. They would do anything to avenge their anger, ANYTHING. In saddams time, it used to be burning ppl with cigarettes, plucking away their nail using pliers, hanging women by their hair from the fans, and now its become a simpler method. Throw kerosene and burn them alive. Its tit for tat. and theres no one, no one around doing anything to stop this violence. This hatred. Even the so called police force are either infiltrated by Sadr's men, or are too scared to intervene, and tehy say the police are serving the Iraqi people, yeah, they are the ones who are suppoed to protect them...
Mixmax, if you have read my previous posts, you would know me better than that. i dont usually generalise, but in this instance I was intimidated by a certain anon. He wants to bring the past govt back!!! What does this mean??? And dont you think things will get even worse (I know that we all are saying it cant get worse, but belv me it can) if the forces leave??? A colleague of mine just today, he said its disaster out there, I said since when it wasnt, he said, no, now its official, now its harub shawari3. I said but it always has been. He again reiterated the point, no, now its official, then he said allah il satir...Yes allah il satir...Im not denying that the US didnt make mistakes, bloody hell they did from the beginnig of this damn war. They had excellent plans for the shock and awe,but then what???Nothing, is it planned u think??? Is it a game you think??? The atrocities they have committed in abu ghraib and falluja and others will never be forgotten, but do you deny the crimes that are happening by Iraqis to their fellow iraqis??? Do u also think that this is orchestrated???
Yes obicek I am a muslim and I am proud to be one...
Sang J, I take the example of my colleagues. They are all from different sects/religeons/ethnicity, yet look at them, at work they are all civil to each other, they sit and talk to each other, they joke around with each other. There is a huge majority and not a minority that dont believe in sectarian violence, but its ppl like sadr and hakeem, dhari and others that have a huge backing are the ones leading this violence. The majority of Iraqis wanna live normally. The majority of Iraqis wanna be able to out with their families and not have to look over their shoulder a million times to see if someone is following them. The majority of Iraqis wanna live in peace.
High crimes, lol...wallah u make me laugh. Your comments add another flavour and dimension to my day. Atleast I can smile when I read your nonsense comments. Keep them up...I definitely am a bitch as you say when it comes to people like you. Ignorant selfish people who still carry their love of "sayyid il qa2id saddam hussein". If my posts intimidate you so much why do u continue reading them. Just quit, go somewhere else and spread your hatred...Bes hey, thanx again for making me smile today, I was sooooo in need of that...
OJ, well, the colaition forces together with some Iraqi minority created these beasts, so its high time they correct their mistakes and do something abt it. The first opportunity they had for the arrest of sadr, they skipped it. They should have arrested him right there and then. Him, al dhari and all the other criminals. Al Dhari fled to egypt and left his ppl fending for themselves. What a patriot huh!!!All these people are cowards, all of them. The only heroes right now, are the average Iraqis who live their daily lives under the sights and sounds of explosions and fire...they wake up to streets filled with dead bodies and bombed houses. They dont know if they will get to live another day...
Lol Marshmallow...
Oh and anon or high crimes or whatever you wanna call yourself, I know who you are, the tone of hatred you have is the same one when you asked me abt my name a few months ago and I refused to give it to you....So pls,be a man, and have some balls the next time you wanna leave a comment here, and use your name, the one you use on your blog atleast...You think im dumb???Im smarter than you will ever think...Oh as a favour, go and continue spreading your hatred on your own blog, leave mine clean please min il huthala illee mithlak...thanx...
yes, my dear, allah yustur! I am aware that there are honorable and honest people who are watching their neighborhood with weapons in their hands. I know that everyday another funeral of a memeber of a certain neighborhood has been found dead laying on the pavement of the street. But it is not official, it won't be official.
You put a number of questions before me: Is it planned? or is it a game?? the answer is no, at least not planned by the US, the situation since the US started messing with the fate of Iraq and the Iraqi did not based on a plan for the future, but the US and other players in the region are taking advantage of the mess and trying, yes trying, to put a plan. However, due to the fact that Iraq is too complicated (compare it to Germany, Japan, Veitnam, Korea...etc) no plan can be perminent. No country can draw the destiny of another country, it must be written by its own people. Iraqis cannot do that, for the time being because either they are so tired of all the previous years, or they are so occupied with how to defend their families and loved once. Remember, when i say Iraqis, I am refering execlusively to the real Iraqis who love thier country and not those in power now or supporters of Dhari, Hakeem, Sadr or even Batman.
You asked if I deny the crimes that are happening by Iraqis to their fellow iraqis? my answer; From the short time we have been disscussing and disscussing the different topics, do you think that I deny for a fraction of a second the crimes that are committed by Iraqis to their fellow Iraqis? Do i think that all this killing is orchestrated??? yes, it is, but I don't believe it has been done by one group or sect, and it became known to everyone that there are some who are doing this and put it on the heads of one of the sects i.e. sunni or shiite.
High Crimes and Anon who are craving to have Saddam back: they seems to think like that journalist who wrote in the new york times or the guardian (i don't remember anymore which western newspaper - it has been a long day). This journalist is proposing seriousely to have Saddam put back in power and watch his behavior. Funny!
The rule of the game in Iraq have been understood by Saddam in the past; Do what you want today, because you can't guarantee what might happen in the future, and to ensure that tomorrow will be 100% yours, you have to have everything, you REALLY have to have EVERY SINGLE THING your eyes lay on. Many politicians and non-politicians learned this and decided to do the same, many did it, and many are still doing it. You got the hint?
Whether you know High crimes or Anon real identity, it does not matter. They made you laugh, this is what counts! By the way, what is your real name???
I forogt to ask you, it has been a long time since the last elections and you are complaining about the purple finger??? is this ink or tattoe?
Iraqi Wife,
You and I agree that al-Sadr is not conducive to a liberal democratic Iraq.
What do you think would happen if the U.S. killed/captured al-Sadr?
I would be worried that a tsunami of 100,000 angry Shiite men might storm the green zone as every available soldier shoots until they run out of ammunition, and helicopter gunships flying above kill peope on a scale not seen since Rwanda.
NIW, You say you want a military personality to lead the country with an iron fist, but isn't this just what Saddam epitomised in every single way?
I agree with your point, that to get rid of the hard militias, you need to have someone HARDER than them, to crush them out of daily life. But rarely will you find someone THAT hard, that can also be selfless when it comes to your country and rebuilding it with the people in mind...
S
NIW
Do i think your dumb? Of course i do.
Being traitor not very smart thing to do.
Do i think your british zionist bicth? Of course i do.
Do i think your working for the occupiers? Of course i do.
Do i think The Resistance should execute you in charg of treason? Of course i do.
Green Zone will fall soon.
By theway bicth, i know that you tried to ban me from the site, but it seems to me your failed Right?
You don't want anyone to remind you how traitor bitch you are, but i will do it every time i feel like.
Once again Get the fuck out of my country befor The Resistance shot you and your Hubby in the head.
Oh god not you again...Listen I dont need to ban you, I didnt even know there was such a thing, but I just push the trash button and all your comments get deleted, I simply choose not to do that cuz I get amused by the usage of your words (new vocab you have learnt for the week???)... And btw,how come youre not even here in Iraq, youre scared sweetie???oh and if you need some english classes I will be glad to help ;-) You know what I think im gonna keep your comments just this time, will have to remove them next time, cuz you are becoming toooooooo predictable and boorrrrring, roo7 wa9ikh other ppl's playgrounds not mine...
Silver,
The problem is not with finding someone to do the job and clean up the country. The problem is that no one is giving the chance to such people.
They are either killed or threatend to be killed, or forced to leave the country
NIW,
Do you think that an American can do anything to help the situation on any level? I am trying to think of some way I can involve my child's school. We can collect new toys or school supplies for Iraqi children. Please give me some of your thoughts on this.
Neurotic wife, I am trying like hell to understand. There are no clear answers, and I wish there were. Freedom is a hard won thing, something that has to be fought for, and the cost is always high, but in the long run it's worth it. Easy to say from my position compared to yours, but history backs me up.
NIW,
Please leave High Crime's comments. To me, they're a little scary actually. Do you get threatened like that often? I think it is important to remind your readers the risk you are taking by mearly publishing your opinion, something many Americans and Europeans take for granted. You are very brave to face that. It makes me wonder how many more people like you are afraid to speak. To me, this is what this war is really all about. Saddam used fear to scare Iraqis from telling the truth about how they felt about him so if we leave Iraq to people like high crimes (assuming they are in Iraq) then we all truely will have lost. I admire your courage!
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