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neurotic Iraqi wife

June 15, 2007

A Deadly War of The Devils...

It comes no surprise or shock to me, the horrid events that took place on Wednesday. In a country where human life has no value, why would a shrine that was built more than 1000 years ago be of any importance. The so called people who call themselves muslims fighting a holy war are non other than criminals who will most definitely be burnt in hell. No muslim, no Christian, No Jew, believes in destroying houses of worship let alone humans.


At about 10 am wednesday, W came to me and asked if I had heard the news. I just shook my head while continuing the work I had up on my screen. Then W said, they bombed the Askari shrines in Sammara again. I froze in my place then slowly looked at him. I have never seen W's face so ashen with fear, except maybe for the day he found out that his wife had a miscarriage. He said "Allah il Satir, Neurotica" (God only knows what will happen). I immediately went to yahoo news and read the disaster that took place. Ofcourse by then, clusters of Iraqi groups got together, talking and discussing the consequences of such an event.

As you walked by, you could see the worry on their faces. The despair. With all that was happening before, this definitely means more bloodshed, and more loss of lives. At about 1330pm, I went out for a smoke, there I saw E and W, trying to make phonecalls to their families, but to no avail. The Iraqna network just froze. E then said, well although Im a Shia, Im not worried, cuz I live in a mixed neighbourhood. But Im afraid that the Shia militias will retaliate and end up killing me instead, she ended sarcastically. W immediately jumped in and said, well I live in a Shia neighbourhood but Im a sunni (W is one of those people that got displaced because his mom and his wife are both Shia's), so Im safe I guess. Then he laughed, laughed quietly as if within himself, and said OMG, look at us Neurotica, did you hear what we just said? Did you hear the sectarian comments we have just made, yet we profess that we aint into that at all??? I laughed too, because no matter how unbiased we say we are, there is not a single truth in that.

Im biased. Yes I am biased, but not towards my sect nor towards the other sect, nor towards any other sect that they have come up with. I am biased towards the innocent Iraqis. I absolutely loathe the government, the militias, and the so called insurgents, and although as a muslim I shouldnt wish death upon anyone, I do wish death to all those parties that have ruined this once historic and divine place. Its God's wrath on us, for look what the Iraqis did to the monarchy? They slaughtered them, hung them from posts, while Iraqis clapped and cheered. What goes around sure does come around. But at the end of the day the victim is no other than the Iraqi that believes in peace.

At around 1400 word on the street was that a curfew was put out which starts at three. All my colleagues scrambled about and rushed to get out of here. You should have seen their faces. Then all of a sudden Mr Chair, stops them and tells them not to go anywhere because there was no official word from the US govt about the curfew!!! The US Govt????? What DO THEY HAVE TO DO WITH IT??? I just couldnt believe my ears. I was so ready to go upto him and just kick him in the face. How dare he, how dare he say that and not give a damn about the safety of the people that risk their lives everyday to come here. HOW DARE HE!!! Thankfully, a security announcement was made just in time making everyone aware of the curfew. People like him, get no respect from me whatsoever, nothing, zilch. I dunno whats happening to the world. I really dont.

As Im writing this, I get a phonecall from H a colleague of mine who lives in Karrada. He called in to see if everything is ok with us in the GZ. I said H, dont worry about us, we are fine, but you guys should take care of yourselves. I asked how is everything in the red zone. He said that all the streets are extremely quiet and seem haunted. Now thats scary. When its too quiet, you know that the bad guys are planning something disastrous. Although all the religeous people, including Sistani have asked both sides to be calm, but knowing the high emotions that everyone is going through right now, there is no calmness about anything anymore. Revenge already started. A few Sunni mosques were burnt down and destroyed.

I am absolutely sickened by all this. They say they are patriots, they say they are nationalists, they say they are muslims and are fighting the enemy for the sake of Iraq. The only people they are infact ruining are the Iraqis themselves. I hope to god, with all the faith that I have left in me, for even that is dimming, that one day, one day pretty soon, these criminals will get what they deserve. Hell. Hell on earth and hell on judgement day.

Mr Moqtada, that great spiritual leader who everyone should look upto because he is a genius of his time, blamed the US forces for the bombing of the shrines. Umm yeah Moqtada, sure, I mean who can argue with you??? You ARE mr know it all after all!!! WHAT BS!!! The reason Iraq is not advancing, is because we have mutakhalifeen (illiterate) people that believe everything this guy says and follow him blindly. I refuse to even watch him on TV, his eyes creep me out. They are like the devils eyes that burn right through you. His followers, not long ago were Saddam loyalists (Fidaee Saddam), who would give up their lives to protect Saddam. And now, They would bomb their own people just to make this lunatic happy. Do I blame them? No, you know why? Because thats exactly the illness that we Iraqis suffer from. I dont care if the Iraqis reading this will disagree with me, but Iraqis always, looking back at history, they always drop their loyalties just like that and go with who would give them more. Not more safety, not more knowledge, but give them more FEAR. The only solution to the mayhem we are in is to appoint someone who is fearless, ruthless yet fair, and has no allegiance, I mean no allegiance, to any party, group, sect or religeon. A man that rules with his fist to fight for the people, and in the name of the people. Not someone who sticks to his damn F****** chair because of prestige and promises words, words that mean nothing, nothing without any action.

What has the current government done so far for the Iraqis??? Did they provide the much needed lifeline of security and stability??? Did they provide them with electricity??? Talking of which, F, a colleague of mine who deals with the Ministry of Electricity was telling me how the governer of Diyala chose to shut off the main switch off in Diyala, because the Mr, didnt like the fact that some other province, had a better share. I mean for God's sake!!!You turn off the damn switch on the whole province robbing your own people from electricity in this scorching heat because of your stubborness???? And you wander why some people are uprising against the government.

As for the sunni tribal leaders who just woke up from their dream realising that protecting Al Qaeda insurgents is no longer an option, I salute you. Its about time. Its about time that you take sides with the Iraqis. I wander when will the Shia's wake up from their own dream and fight the right people, instead of their own Iraqi women, men, children and elderly??? If only they can unite against the real enemy, if only they can put their differences aside for once, and direct their hatred towards Al Qaeda and Iran and all those outside forces. I know its wishful thinking, but my god would things just become a little better and improve.


This war, this war is not about the Americans, nor about the multi national forces. This war is about Iraqis themselves. This war is about destroying Iraq and everything it represents. The so called friendly neighbours, who keep promising to help out are themselves the criminals. They are supplying the militias and the gangs with deadly weapons. Not one of them wants Iraq to be stable, not one of them wants Iraq to prosper. This war is no longer about the occupation. This war is a deadly war, A Deadly War of the Devils....

Update: D called and said there is sporadic fighting, together with some shooting going around. Situation isnt too good outside, not good at all...
posted by neurotic_wife at 12:45 PM

56 Comments:

you know, i ve come to the conclusion that islam is a barbarian ideology as wrong and evil as nazism or communism. They hate everything and everybody, even themselves! They live for revenge, chaos, intolerance and they glorify death, what a sad pathetic bunch . I just dont know how to get rid of them . If you leave them alone, they'll COME OVER HERE, just look at the events in UK.At least our brave boys over there are keeping these animals occupied over there instead of on our shores....

June 15, 2007 at 1:23 PM  

No anon, I dont agree with you one bit. Islam is not a barbarian ideology, on the contrary, its one of peace and harmony. It has been tarnished and tainted by those evil people who portray it as such. They are the ones who are giving islam a bad name. Im proud to be a muslim, although at times, I do get confused by many things, but at the end of the day, knowing that a god exists, believing in all the stories in the Quran, makes my life abit more easier than someone who doesnt believe in any of it. Atleast I dont change words around or interpret it the way I want to. Thats how all those al qaeda and other fake muslims people do it.

The simplest example I can give you, is Iran. Iran the most religeous country supposedly, right??? They believe in sex outside marriage. Well although Im a shia, I dont blv in that, but they say that its acceptable when in the Quran, it cannot be clearer as how God prohibits such act. They just misuse and/or use things to their own advantage and tarnish everything that is pure.

Its sad but true...

June 15, 2007 at 3:20 PM  

anonass, Christianity was in the same area Islam is now 500 years ago, it's nothing about theology it's about society, our society is backward. that's it.

as for you neurotica, this post was quite simply too sad and too powerful at the same time, now if you could only fix this bug in your blog, the white background of the posts ends after the first few lines (my resolution is 1024x768)

stay safe, plz plz plz.

June 15, 2007 at 4:52 PM  

Yes it is sad KK...Bes shinsawee, this is just our bad luck...Im gonna try and fix my template, I think its in need of a change, so bare with me until I find something suitable...I think it will keep changing until I find the "perfect" one

June 15, 2007 at 5:35 PM  

phew! so so so glad you are back.
hope all is well with hubby. when are you leaving iraq?

June 15, 2007 at 6:07 PM  

I absolutely loathe the government, the militias, and the so called insurgents, and although as a muslim I shouldnt wish death upon anyone, I do wish death to all those parties that have ruined this once historic and divine place.

Why do you continue working for them then? Do you really think that by working in the Green Zone you are helping Iraqis?

The so called friendly neighbours, who keep promising to help out are themselves the criminals. They are supplying the militias and the gangs with deadly weapons. Not one of them wants Iraq to be stable, not one of them wants Iraq to prosper. This war is no longer about the occupation.

Oh, yeah, and the U.S. occupation had nothing to do with this conflict at all. As if they haven't been arming and playing different Iraqi groups against one another for the last four years. Who do you think empowered the Iraqi exiles and the Shi'ite militias? Who armed them and turned them into a national police and army? Who has now started arming and funding Sunni insurgent groups and militias claiming to fight Al-Qaeda? Who is adding more fuel to the fire of Iraq do you think?

June 15, 2007 at 7:36 PM  

Good rant, Neurotica. Thanks for posting all the updates.

June 15, 2007 at 8:36 PM  

"direct their hatred towards Al Qaeda and Iran"

How about the Americans? I thought they were the ones with the largest army in Iraq and didn't Al-Qaeda and Iran only start meddling in Iraq after it became a playground for every western nation and private militia ( 75,000 private mercenaries )? .... oh yeah they're paying your salary silly me.

"The so called friendly neighbours, who keep promising to help out are themselves the criminals"

Well they know the Iraqi's aren't ruling Iraq, so how can they rely on you to not allow the Americans to attack them from Iraq? You can't even pass legislation to keep control of your own OIL. Until the Iraqi's kick the Americans out no neighbor should be stupid enough to accept American bases in Iraq nor trust Iraqi's with their own destiny, and as such they will continues to create chaos until the Americans leave ....its like Lebanon .... our problem as iraqi's is that we don't know how to pick our alliances ....what good do u think can come from the Americans didn't we already try the British why go down the wrong path again? just so chalabi or some other bastard can have his shot at ruling so they can exchange a puppet for another .... when will you learn that if you don't change things by yourself any change from outside will only be in the interests of the foreign power and given our differences will be opposed to our interests.

June 15, 2007 at 9:49 PM  

Love your posts, allows us to see the real side. Hope you are safe and I wish things would change for everyone.

June 15, 2007 at 9:52 PM  

...If only they can unite against the real enemy, if only they can put their differences aside for once, and direct their hatred towards Al Qaeda and Iran and all those outside forces. I know its wishful thinking, but my god would things just become a little better and improve.

It's not just wishful thinking, Neurotica. They are all coming around - much more slowly than we would all like - but they are coming around. Painful as things are, just remember the situation will never be perfect but it will keep getting better. I think you know, we Americans are really on your side.

As I understand it the current Sunni-Shia struggle has been centuries in the making. Now suddenly there is this imposed culture shock. Some will never come around to the notion of democracy, or even understand what it is. You can imagine them wondering, "Will this democracy thing work? Vote? How will that work? Why can't we just kill anyone who disagrees? Then there will be no arguments."

But you understand. You know democracy will work, and you are there helping to make it happen. Just by getting up and going to work every day you are right there in the forefront of the battle. I salute you for your courage. You may think it's nothing, but I am in awe. You are on the leading edge in the fight for liberty. I believe in you.

June 16, 2007 at 4:08 AM  

NIW,

I think it's time for you to take a break again and get away for a while. But I know you won't leave yet.

Best wishes from an old friend.

Raven

June 16, 2007 at 5:11 AM  

I am linking to your blog from mine. I hope that's o.k. My thoughts are with you. Salaam.

June 16, 2007 at 7:06 AM  

hala Neurotic..
Didn't this happen last year in Feb?
I even remember blogging about it here
ya allah.. when will this nightmare stop?

June 16, 2007 at 11:04 AM  

kid said it right: 'too sad and too powerful at the same time.'

take care
stay safe
and please keep writing,
it's much appreciated!

June 16, 2007 at 1:31 PM  

well, all i can say is that indian dude who took this picture for you sure knows how, unless he's hubz.

June 16, 2007 at 11:14 PM  

Nice picture. But it makes it hard to read the text.

Take Care
Gilberto (Cleveland Ohio)

June 16, 2007 at 11:43 PM  

Sis,

I like your new blog graphics. Keep up the good work.

Sam

June 17, 2007 at 6:36 AM  

Hi Neurotic: I like your new template. Nice photo.

Iraq's days as one nation are numbered i'm afraid. I think what will happen is this: It will break up into 3 nations Sunni, Shia and Kurd and have high gang violence rates.

The US will stay for another 3 to 5 years.

There is still much more bloodshed ahead and only when everyone lays down their weapons will average iraqis stop "splitting" each other into "good" and "evil" and picking sides.

The light at the end of the tunnel is still elusive and pretty far away.

June 17, 2007 at 10:30 AM  

Hello Neurotica,

Welcome welcome sister...shino halgheba?

I agree with Kid the white background hurts but I can say that the whole thing is great and reminds me of chocolate.

Be safe

June 17, 2007 at 11:42 AM  

NIW said: No anon, I dont agree with you one bit. Islam is not a barbarian ideology, on the contrary, its one of peace and harmony. It has been tarnished and tainted by those evil people who portray it as such. They are the ones who are giving islam a bad name. Im proud to be a muslim, although at times, I do get confused by many things, but at the end of the day, knowing that a god exists, believing in all the stories in the Quran, makes my life abit more easier than someone who doesnt believe in any of it. Atleast I dont change words around or interpret it the way I want to. Thats how all those al qaeda and other fake muslims people do it.

Beautifully worded, NIW, I can't agree more. It is very easy to blame a principle, a faith, an ideology rather than the adherents.

The problem in the Muslim world is the adherents. And the adherents, as NIW pointed out, are mutakhalifiin. Well, to be fair, most are. The Arab world, for example, has 40% illiteracy.

Iraq in 1988 had 96% LITERACY. The sanctions saw an end to that et voila the foot soldiers of today all are high school dropouts or can't read. Byproducts of the wonder age of the 1990s.

Which is an anomaly, since the Archangel Gabriel told the Prophet to READ. Read in the name of your lord ... etc.

Muqtada is one such example. And there are others. But it gets tricky when the leaders of terrorist organizations are lobbying around with PhDs. Zawahiri, for example, and all the senior cadre of Al-Qaeda are doctors, engineers, chemists, biologists, you name it.

So, the system of education becomes the focus. In the Middle East today, the American liberal arts method of instruction is being applied from grade schools through to university level.

I digress, I came here to thank NIW for being angry. It is your angry posts I have always liked.

It is anger that will liberate Iraq. It is anger that will incite normal Iraqis to take back our country and rebuild it brick by brick.

Keep writing.

PS: People if the white background "hurts" just scroll up a few cms and it is quite legible.

June 17, 2007 at 11:56 AM  

further to the comment above by "truth about iraqis".. you can highlight the txt and it changes colour.. or u can copy-paste to view it better.

June 17, 2007 at 12:05 PM  

just saw the new template!!! beautiful stuff :)
mabrook

June 17, 2007 at 3:35 PM  

Yeah I love the use of the islamic iconography coupled with the fact that the viewer seems to be drawn to the light (someone up there said there is a light at the end of every tunnel) and with NIW standing to the side, her glance questioning, seeking.

Much symbolism in this layout.

Keep it.

June 17, 2007 at 3:51 PM  

Hi NIW. I like the new template. Great post. I agree with you that Islam is not the problem. A theology is only as good as the people who follow it, and interpret it. There are so many parallels in the history of Christianity, and Islam(of course they come from they same roots). It astounds me when I see the words hate, peace, and love used in the same paragraphs, by people who apparently believe they are closer to God than anyone else. Humankind has forever tried to create God in it's own image, and we never seem to learn from history, continuing to repeat our mistakes. A leader in Iraq that is tough, fair, non partisan? Is there such a one, and when will he or she emerge? So far I've seen more of that among Iraqi bloggers than I've seen in the political picture in Iraq. One thing I've learned is that the media, political, and religious leaders of this world are no more intelligent than the people they lead, so good luck to us all in that respect. A great leader should be a servant of the people. Stay safe NIW.

June 17, 2007 at 4:37 PM  

Good to read from you. I like the new layout.

If you want my humble opinion, ignorant as I am as to what is happening there on the ground, I have a growing suspicion that the Bush Cabal doesn't have any intention of leaving Iraq. The oil, the contracts, the regional influence, the insane amount of money being bankrupted from American workers to line the pockets of the very men who occupy the white house and their corporate military-industrial masters. It's too good of a deal for them to pull out now. And no, I don't think they shed one genuine tear for the maimed, the tortured, the dead, the lives they have ruined. Yes, here's my humble opinion, I think that in the minds of the Bush Cabal, this war is going as planned, and I do think certain mercenary elements within your country ARE keeping the levels of violence and hatred elevated, because their stratagy is not to leave Iraq a pretty basket of freedom flowers. No, their stratagy is to stay there forever. Permenant bases, largest in the world, NIW? If you get a chance, do a little research on past colonial adventures, the French in Africa, the English in India. Why were they there? To make money. How did they keep the population divded enough to keep their foot in the door? They instigated violence and hatred. It was only when the populations united that the colonial occupiers were kicked out. When trying to connect the dots as try why things are happening they way they are, one must traverse the many conquests that blight our shared human history and imagine how such history will shape our futures.

June 17, 2007 at 11:56 PM  

Speaking of colonial adventures and devils:

Taguba said that he saw "a video of a male American soldier in uniform sodomizing a female detainee."

When US soldiers sodomize Iraqi women

This is the true face of the occupier, the colonialist, the liberator.

Imagine if this had happened to any of your sisters, aunts, cousins, mothers.

3eib, 3ar, 7aram.

June 18, 2007 at 12:59 AM  

General Petraeous has just announced that US troops will be in Iraq for "at least a decade".

It must be obvious now that the US has no intentions of ever leaving.

Iraq only has one chance and that is to unite as one nationalist unit and fight the US forces, if Iraqis want their country back.

Someone is using Machivellian tactics to "divide and conquer" the Iraqis. Someone has started and is continuing the sectarian violence. Until Iraqis work out for themselves who it is, it will continue.

Large numbers of Iraqis are being killed in this sectarian violence. Who gains from this?

Why and who are killing the academics and professionals? Could it be because these are the type of people who could provide LEADERSHIP to a country? Who might be able to unite a country in fighting for its very survival?

June 18, 2007 at 2:36 AM  

I hope the Iraqi people unite against the United States like Mahatma Gandhi united people against India's tyrants: kick them out honorably, with love, not death. When we act like our enemies, we become our enemies. I also hope a *certain blogger* will open her mind and realize that she is part of the problem, not part of the solution. Indians worked for the British, with good intentions, but they only made life wose for the people of their country. It was the Indians who worked alongside the Indians that got Britian kicked out. Look at India now! She has her problem still, but she is well on her way to becoming a powerhouse on the global stage.

We have too many short-term thinkers, not enough epic thinkers.

June 18, 2007 at 3:19 AM  

She has informed so many people all around the world with her thoughts. Why is she still sitting behind a computer doing a layman's work? For the occupier, no less.

Why isn't NIW taking a stand to motivate her people if she cares so much? Why can't NIW be the modern Gandhi of Iraq? She can, but she choses not to. The ONLY thing stopping her is herself. Should we feel any pity?

Any day she could die, as a tool of the invaders of her land. If you're going to take that kind of risk, why not go all the way to being a saint?

I don't understand you NIW.

June 18, 2007 at 3:43 AM  

Truth about Iraqis,

Imagine if this had happened to any of your sisters, aunts, cousins, mothers.

If you were interested in "Truth" you'd be the first to point out that the biggest victimizer of Iraqi women, is Iraqi men.

You are part of the problem that NIW is complaining about. And yet, you present yourself as part of the solution.

June 18, 2007 at 4:32 AM  

By the way, Truth dude, in the interest of TRUTH - the Taguba report did not contain the statement you claim it did. I've read it. Have you?

Nature of Abu Ghraib abuse

Seymour Hersh, an investigative journalist with The New Yorker, said there are tapes of Iraqi boys being sodomized by guards, and that these tapes are being held by the Bush administration. "The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling, and the worst part is the soundtrack, of the boys shrieking," he claimed to a conference of the ACLU in July 2004. However, Hersch subsequently clarified in print that he had merely read a report of an Iraqi guard committing sodomy while a female servicemember took photographs, and expressed regret for what he claimed was an exagerration of fact.

Want me to link the actaul ATguba report? Because I can do that for you, if you have trouble doing your own research.

Time to get honest, mister "Truth about Iraqis" - unless you want us to believe the truth about Iraqis is that they are liars.

June 18, 2007 at 4:40 AM  

actually craig the articles reports details revealed by Taguba personally and not in the report if you read the article you would know ! The reason why he didn't put it in the report was because rummy your bastard friend and wolfowitz the other neocon Zionist you like didn't allow it into the report. But who needs the report there were more than one claim at the time of such abuses and your government doesn't admit its errors until it becomes public it isn't as if they are the first to disclose any of the abuses is it? Anyway your government with all its money and might couldn't hide these atrocities like those in Vietnam so stop lying and acting smart it makes you look dumber than you really are...another example would be the raping of the Iraqi girl and burning her and her family which wasn't disclosed until the "terrorists" attacked comrades of the units responsible and made public statements which lead to investigation which showed that what the "terrorists" said was true and even then not all of them got imprisoned some of the soldiers got let off. Anyway why are you in such denial and anger thats your nature you did it in japan and Vietnam and the Philippines and in your own country if you don't like it renounce your citizenship.

June 18, 2007 at 7:49 AM  

Neuro,

WOW!! I didn't see you standing there while I was reading the post, but today came across it again and saw you there...very elegant.

June 18, 2007 at 7:57 AM  

actually craig the articles reports details revealed by Taguba personally and not in the report if you read the article you would know !

Based on an article in "The New Yorker" - the very same publication that Seymour Hersch apologized for making mis-statements in, in the past?

I did read the article. This is all it says about the allegation the Truth guy cited:

Taguba said that he saw “a video of a male American soldier in uniform sodomizing a female detainee.”

I find it interesting that Hersch quotes Taguba piecemeal, apparently from memory? If Hersch interviewed Taguba, why wasn't that interview published? How do we know this isn't just Hersch, repeating things that he "heard" - one more time?

because rummy your bastard friend and wolfowitz the other neocon Zionist you like didn't allow it into the report.

Fuck you too. But onto the real issue - I disbelieve that. The Taguba report DID make allegations that male Iraqis were sexually assaulted by male American military personnel, which is far worse than this allegation is. At least, being a sexual deviant in addition to being a rapist is worse, to most Americans. I have no idea how you Iraqis feel about homosexuality.

Also, the report did mention that a male MP had "sex" with a female detainee - with the implication that it was in exchange for favors. Whether the female agreed to the sex or not, that's still rape. It's impossible for a prisoner to consent to sex. It should have been prosecuted as a war crime, but it wasn't. I'm not even sure it was prosecuted at all.

I ahve no objection to finding out what the truth of Abu Ghraib is, wherever that leads. But I do object to people making unsubstantiated allegations.

I did a few Google searches trying to verify this claim the Truthful Iraqi makes, and all roads lead back to Seymour Hersch. He's the only one making this assertion. And he's already been caught lying about Abu Ghraib, before. So, fuck Hersch.

Anyway why are you in such denial and anger thats your nature you did it in japan and Vietnam and the Philippines and in your own country if you don't like it renounce your citizenship.

Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best. Why are you in such a hurry to make allegations against Americans? Does that reduce the guilt you feel as an Iraqi, for the carnage and misery that your own people are inflicting on each-other?

Well. That's fine, then. Right?

June 18, 2007 at 8:09 AM  

I have a question. I have been reading your blogs the past couple of days and I think you are a very insightful person on this whole war and the americans and so on. I am an american and I am getting ready to get married in 5 weeks. My fiance' was offered a contracting position in Iraq where he will work to build computer networks. The company said that I could go with him, But of course I am scarred out of my mind. I know we are in war and things yea arnt so great there and its really dangerous. But is it as dangerous as the media makes it sound? I realize people are dying everyday in cruel and vicious ways. But would I be safe? do you feel safe? I feel like the media dictates what people think about the war, and I wonder if there only showing the bad things. I guess it depends on where we will be in Iraq and stuff. But I am just worried that a 20 year old american girl like myself may be extremely unsafe in Iraq right now. I need help with this huge life altering decision! Any insight?

June 18, 2007 at 9:04 AM  

I'm thankful You are safe thus far, so BE CAREFUL and tell hubby to BE CAREFUL also..
Nice graphics/background on the main page. Is that You in the image? I too have been offered two positions(with two different companies) as a network contractor in Iraq. I declined, even though the salary was six digits in USD. My advice to the lady who's hubby is considering going to Iraq is: DON'T!!! Consider Dubai, it is tax free and safe,...

June 18, 2007 at 9:51 AM  

NIW, I'm the "If you want my humble opinion" lady. I want you to know that some of the posts that came after mine strike me as really weird. Funny (kinda) some disgusting and irrelivent posts appeared very soon after I spoke of the Bush people intending to stay in Iraq and possibly being involved in the violence.

And if US troops are sexually abusing women, the poster needs to report such crimes to the ACLU, UN, and their respective authoreties. I find if very suspicious such a post was so soonly posted after mine.

June 18, 2007 at 9:58 AM  

"Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best."

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

The more you talk, the more you reveal your true colors.

"Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best."

So, what are you doing reading NIW's blog? Where does she fit into your little racist hierarchy?

Do you see her inferior because she is an Iraqi and you are an American?

You feel morally, spiritually and culturally superior to her because
"Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best."

Isn't such ideology what fuels White Man's Burden, the colonization of Africa, Asia, South America?

The link I provided was to Hersh and none other than Hersh. The statements I quoted are there in the article to which I provided the link.

You are so shamed and disgusted by the actions of your troops that you scurry like dogs trying to find any discrepancy.

You call Hersh a liar because he helped expose My Lai, Abu Ghraib I and Abu Ghraib II. Yes, Hersh is a liar and Bush, Condi, Powell, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Feith, Libby, Perle are not.

They are the truth-tellers and he is the liar.

Why? Because he shows how deceitful and inhumane the US military really is?

And when you can find nothing more to say, you come up with this:

"Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best."

Tsk, tsk.

Thank you for being truthful with us programmer craig.

You have shown us that red, white and blue really means "Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best."

How many others who come here and profess care and concern for the Iraqi people feel the same way?

How many of you believe "Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best."

When you express worry for NIW if she hasn't written in a while, are you being genuine or are you simply caring for a lower life form, a sub-human race because "Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best."

Sigh. Racism. You gotta love it. No matter what people like craig do, they can never, ever hide it.

It kind of fits in with the US general who commented "it's only Iraqis" when confronted with the horros of Abu Ghraib.

It is in Hersh's article.

June 18, 2007 at 10:11 AM  

You know the statement "Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best" may help explain this statement:

Bush administration officials have long accused Syria of not doing enough to stop al-Qaida sympathizers from slipping into Iraq, but they barely mention the far larger number of Iraqis who cross the border in the other direction. The United States remains at the bottom of the list of countries that have accepted Iraqi refugees, though the State Department has promised to admit as many as 7,000 this year.

Iraqi refugees

Thanks Programmer Craig, you are really explaining the US approach to helping Iraq.

June 18, 2007 at 10:26 AM  

Funny (kinda) some disgusting and irrelivent posts appeared very soon after I spoke of the Bush people intending to stay in Iraq and possibly being involved in the violence.

And you call other people's comments funny and irrelevant? :P

Anybody who thinks US troops will be in Iraq 2 years from now, let alone 10, may as well be from another planet.

General Petraeous has just announced that US troops will be in Iraq for "at least a decade".

That isn't what he said. He doesn't even get to make that decision - he's a fucking Army general. What he said was that in his opinion it would take many years to stabilize Iraq. Put his statement together with the *fact* US troops will be withdrawing before that can happen (like next year) and what can you come up with? Iraq will still be in anarchy when the US withdraws.

June 18, 2007 at 10:28 AM  

Truth About Iraqis, I'm sorry you made those long comments. You seem to believe that I care about your opinions. I thought I made it clear to you a couple years ago that I don't.

I only pointed out an outrageous lie you were telling, so that you wouldn't get away with provoking Iraqis, unchallenged.

As far as I'm concerned, you are scum. If anybody deserves to be a victim of the sectarian violence in Iraq, it's you. But you probably aren't in Iraq, are you?

June 18, 2007 at 10:31 AM  

The United States remains at the bottom of the list of countries that have accepted Iraqi refugees

Are you one of the Iraqis I saw a year or two ago suggesting they should get even with America by going to America and attacking people there? I think maybe you were. That was a pretty popular opinion amongst a certain type (*cough* sunni insurgent supporting ratbags *cough*) of Iraqi blogger a while back. Oh, but wait, you aren't sunni, are you? You're just "Iraqi", huh?

Well, dude, if all Iraqis had the opinions you do, I'd want the number of Iraqis allowed into the US set at ZERO. Forever. We don't want nor should we accept violent and deranged individuals such as yourself. And some of the other commentators in this thread, as well.

But we'll take all we can get of the decent Iraqis. The problem is, how can we tell the difference? If you were applying for a visa, would you admit to being a shithead who supports rape, murder, kidnapping, suicide bombing, etc? Or would you try to pass yourself off as a decent human being?

June 18, 2007 at 10:39 AM  

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June 18, 2007 at 12:41 PM  

So do you work for NDI or RTI?

June 18, 2007 at 6:22 PM  

I just read a quote. It said"With or without religon you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things it takes religon". I believe this no matter which religon a person is part to.

June 18, 2007 at 7:20 PM  

Anon asking me whether I work with RTI or NDI, its neither.

For all those who keep asking me, why am I working with the enemy, or if I really wanna help Iraqis then I shouldnt be here, bla bla bla...I can only say, if it wasnt for my job here, I wouldnt have known all what I know now. Yes I am getting paid by the US govt, and so are hundreds of thousands of Iraqis working here. So are they all collaborators??? Are all the contractors collaborators??? Are all those Iraqi expats working in Europe, the US, UAE, Syria, etc...collaborators??? Pls dont insult my intelligence. I think I have gained so much knowledge working here amongst both the American people and the Iraqis. I get to see both sides of the story. Granted I have only been out in the Red zone once, but I do get to see those who live there on a daily basis. I get to hear their woes everyday. At the same time, I get to see the American side of the story. Those expats we work with here, I can say almost 50% of them are wholeheartedly ready to help out in anyway they can. Even those who left already, they still send packages to their Iraqi coworkers, they still keep intouch and ask them about their lives here. Some even went to the extent of asking those who are waiting for the special immigrant visa to join them at whatever state they are in so they can assist them all the way. So please, just quit generalising. I am with you 100% that so much of this mayhem is caused by the idiotic foreign policies that Bush and others put in place. Infact it was US govt that supplied Al qaeda with weapons during the afghan war with the soviets. It was the US govt that gave saddam the power. So yes I dont disagree on that one bit. But look at us now... Look to what the Iraqis are doing to each other. We are not saints. So dont give me this crap of the finger pointing, it doesnt work anymore. And you know what, although my dislike of bush is same to my dislike of all those Iraqi cronies like Muqtada and hakeem and ofcourse saddam, I salute him for one thing, and one thing only, he always, no matter what, puts his people first. Not like our past and present govts, who think of themselves only.

As for the comment that "America's worst is better than Iraq's best". Now that statement aggravates the hell outta me. This statement is simply not true, for Iraq is truly the cradle of civilization. We are known to have the best doctors, the best professors, the best teachers, the best scientists, the best mathematicians, the best engineers, the best artists and thinkers. We as Iraqis are known to be the most intelligent people even by European or US standards. Dont let those thugs that fill the tv screens with their black or even white cloaks deceive you. So no, america's worst is definitely NOT better than Iraq's best. That by itself is an insult to me, my family and all the good and intelligent Iraqis all over the world.

As for the torture/rape/killings believe it or not, its happening from both sides. If you think Abu ghraib is bad, and thats because of the media coverage it got, wait till one day a video gets leaked to what the MoI or the militias or the insurgents do to their captives. I cant even call these people animals, cuz even animals can be more humane. So again, dont give me this tit for tat thing. And Im not trying to defend any side here, infact Im trying to be as fair as can be.

As for the anon whose asking about coming here to be with her hubby. Hmmm, well what can I say. As you said, it all depends on where you will be based. But then again, even the GZ has become a constant target and is now filled with infiltrators. If you are one that jumps from a mere sound of a bang, then I advice you not to come here. But generally speaking, I know of quite a few couples here. Many guys/women who work here have brought their spouses here. As long as you are not in the red zone, especially if you are an american then, I am one who encourages it. But I will tell you this, a lady who used to work with us 2 yrs back, and left abt 18 months ago, came back again. The other day as I was smoking she told me, If I knew that we get hammered everyday, I would have never come back. So its really ur choice.Besides its a prison everywhere you go, whatever base or district you go to. I guess it depends on what you can and cannot handle.

Tom, thanx for your kind words, but Im not in the forefront at all. I live and work in the GZ, unlike the thousand Iraqis who risk their lives by coming here. I dont suffer like they do, I have 24hr electricity, I have 24hr water. I am after all protected by T walls and legite checkpoints. I dont look over my shoulder a thousand times to see if someone is following me. So now, Im not the hero, they are...

Hey Raven, long time, yeah I do need a break, and Im gonna get one soon, thank god for that...


KK, MM, BuJ, Sam, Jason, Solo and all those who liked the template, thanx. I like it too. The pic was taken by hubby. But the template still needs modifications which Im working on...Can everyone see the words???

TAI, thanks for your words, although, we never agree on view points and you always attack me, I find it strange that you wrote nice words about me this time, So thank you. BUt I still dont agree with many of your points of view, and we have to agree that we disagree...

Sometimes it boggles my mind, why a simple post can cause so much havoc and hatred...Oh well, it wont deter me from writing thats for sure....

June 18, 2007 at 7:32 PM  

NIW, well said on nearly all accounts.

Thank you for firing back on the Worst Americans better than Best Iraqis phrase.

I couldn't have said it better myself. But I won't let that stop me, I will have a go myself in a tad.

It is not strange that I wrote nice things about you this time.

I have read your blog with much interest for quite some time, and I usually want to say something, but I guess the fact that we have had stark disagreements in the past deterred me.

But no more.

I disagree with Fayrouz, BT, 24, Zeyad, Riverbend and a few others. But I find that there are far more points of agreement than the contrary.

And I guess through my anger, I have come to realize that at the very end of it all, you are Iraqi.

And I am Iraqi. And we are all Iraqi. We must embrace that as our common ground and use it as a common foundation to move forward.

I used to resent you for living and working in the GZ, but I can't do that.

I cannot hate Iraqis any more nor can I judge them for the conditions and circumstances which led them to such and such.

Of course I do despise the Hakims, Al-QayDucks, Sadrs, Badrs, fedayeen, but IF Iraq is to have any chance at all - an inkling of a chance - educated Iraqis must come together.

The statement you made: Iraq is truly the cradle of civilization. We are known to have the best doctors, the best professors, the best teachers, the best scientists, the best mathematicians, the best engineers, the best artists and thinkers. We as Iraqis are known to be the most intelligent people even by European or US standards.

Tell me how can I not say nice words when you write like that?

And you are so right. It is these Iraqis that are the hope for our country. Oh, there are so many educated and accomplished Iraqis - so many.

Some of the Americans who come here just don't know because they first heard of Iraq in 1991 most likely and had no inkling till they read WaPo or listened to Condi.

But our history, our modern history predates even Condi's birth date.

Our artists are world renown. Our architects, our musicians, even our fashion designers.

Our history is rich and diverse.

Yes, I agree with you Iraqis have committed atrocities, but these atrocities were not born in a vacuum. The right conditions were created for them to exist.

La3nat Allah 3ala Bremer.

Anyways, you don't need to agree with my povs and vice versa, but do not let those stand between us.

I will no longer attack you. My soft spot for Iraqi women has won me over, especially after reading some of the gut-wrenching stories on Layla Anwar's blog arabwomanblues.

I stand in solidarity with her and all Iraqi women. I don't give a rat's derriere what your sect is.

We Iraqis need each other. One day, we will all wake up to that fact and realize that absolutely no one will help us unless we help ourselves first.

Programmer craig, hold on to your boots, am a-coming.

June 18, 2007 at 8:39 PM  

Programmed Craig:

I don't answer to you, you aren't Iraqi. The only affiliation I have to you is that you are an invading rogue and I am here to uncover your true racist, bellicose heart and the foul zealous nature of your spiel.

Programmer Craig, you have let us know exactly what you think of Iraqis.

You are profane, uncouth and belligerent.

You invade another country and then shoot down those who question your motives, tactics, ideology and racism.

You cannot even qualify your statement that ""Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best".

You know I did not lie. My link was to the Hersh article. Go click on it. Go ahead, don't be afraid. Click on my link. See where it takes you.

Had you bothered to check that link you would have seen that it leads directly to the New Yorker website.

If you don't care about my opinions why are you rambling?

You already let us know that you do not care about Iraqi opinions because in your eyes "Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best" .

I never said any such thing as attacking America. You know that. I defy you to go through every single blog posting of mine and find it.

I am one of many, many Iraqis who condemned 9-11, but when you cannot defend yourself with logic, wit, and intelligence (and the facts) - you launch tirades about attacking America yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah.

It's getting old. In fact, I do not remember EVER seeing any Iraqi say any such thing - to go to America to attack people there.

Not one. Not even the most anti-occupation people.

In fact, there have been a few times where I have expressed sympathy for the mothers of US soldiers returned home charred and in caskets.

I have tried to imagine their pain. And yet I could not fathom it.

And I did that DESPITE the pain that YOU have inflicted on my country.

We don't want anything to do with America but civilized relations. Get out of Iraq, end your barbaric war and occupation, leave us to live in peace, not pieces, we do not need your meddling.

Your meddling has transformed the entire middle east into hell with millions of refugees in almost every country from almost every country.

I have every right in the book to support the resistance as long as my country is occupied by the US and Iran.

You have no right to invade other people's homes. We had nothing to do with 9-11.

Before your ilk came, we had relative peace. Our children could go to school, our women could work and not be harassed to don this and that.

I defy you to go through every comment I have ever made and find any statement about attacking America. You won't and you know you won't.

(I do however condone attacks on ALL occupation forces in Iraq. I condemn ALL attacks on Iraqi civilians and infrastructure)

(Not even Zawraa has EVER called for attacks on the US or any sort of attack OUTSIDE Iraq. Never. But then again, you don't speak Arabic, while we speak English. Sorry, you are superior because "Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best". You don't need to learn the language of inferiors, right?)

But seriously, show me one blogger who said they would like to go to America to get even. You got the goods, you talk the talk, deliver and walk the walk.

Yallah 3ad, cough it up.

You said: That was a pretty popular opinion amongst a certain type (*cough* sunni insurgent supporting ratbags *cough*) of Iraqi blogger a while back.

Seems there should be loads of such statements from certain Iraqi bloggers to back you up. So show me.

But you like to group all Iraqis who question your foreign policy and your blatant disregard for the human rights of others in one simplistic category.

You foam at the mouth like a rabid dog because you got caught with your pants down:

"Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best"

Your racism shows through and through. And when you get called up on it, you choke and stutter and make baseless accusations.

Tell us, programmer craig who does not care about my opinions, what exactly did you mean when you said:

"Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best".

You will take all the decent Iraqis you can get? Prove it.

Write your congressman/woman, start a petition, protest your country's policy of treating Iraqis who even worked with the occupation forces as scum.

Go ahead.

I know of an Iraqi translator who worked with US forces for three years and I have seen the letters saying they would not offer him a visa for even a visit.

Just a visit. His brother and nephew were killed because he worked with the gringos.

And still they refused. A US Major who befriended this translator even wrote the military asking they giving him a visa for a visit.

And they wrote back flatly rejecting.

And the gringos then shut the door in his face.

Why? Because "Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best".

The translator was forced to flee to Syria and apply for refugee status in Sweden.

Sweden did not invade Iraq, by the way. It has no responsiblity to help pick up after the mess YOU made.

Why is it you will not own up to your statement?

Are you ashamed of it? Was it a moment of irreconcilable stupidity?

Tell everyone here EXACTLY what you meant by "Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best".

At the very least TRY and exonerate yourself. Do not be a coward.

And while you are at it, please exonerate this:

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif., May 9 (Reuters) - Angered that a beloved member of his squad had been killed in an explosion, a U.S. Marine urinated on one of the 24 dead Iraqi civilians killed by his unit in Haditha, the Marine testified on Wednesday.

Sgt. Sanick Dela Cruz, who has immunity from prosecution after murder charges against him were dismissed, also said he watched his squad leader shoot down five Iraqi civilians who were trying to surrender.

In dramatic testimony in a pretrial hearing for one of the seven Marines charged in the Nov. 2005 Haditha killings and alleged cover-up, Dela Cruz described his bitterness after a roadside bomb ripped Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas, known as T.J., into two bloody pieces.

"I know it was a bad thing what I've done, but I done it because I was angry T.J. was dead and I pissed on one Iraqi's head," said an unemotional Dela Cruz in a military courtroom in Camp Pendleton, north of San Diego, California.


Maybe the US soldiers thought like you did that "Americans at their worst are better than Iraqis at their best".

Or are you going to tell me that was a lie, too?

PS: Today US forces bombed to pieces seven Afghan children.

Maybe you would like to say "Americans at their worst are better than Afghans at their best".

June 18, 2007 at 8:45 PM  

As for the comment that "America's worst is better than Iraq's best". Now that statement aggravates the hell outta me.

My apologies, Neurotica. I was wildly exaggerating. I've never even met an Iraqi, all I know is what I see on the news and on blogs. Some of the Iraqi bloggers would be a credit to any nation. Some (like the Truth guy who keeps spamming me with his idiotic opinions) are a disgrace to all of humanity. And some are in between. That's my opinion, based on what I can see from here. Iraqis who fixate on what America does wrong and never talk about all the things that iraqis do wrong just blow my mind. And it does seem from reading the blogs, that most Iraqis are like that.

June 18, 2007 at 11:28 PM  

Neurotica.. when this is over, you should host your own show on TV :-)

I have a long list of potential guests.

btw, Hubby's a pretty good photographer, but I'd complain coz he made the mosque(?) take most of the picture rather than you.. hehe just kidding.

so how is the 3arees doing?

June 19, 2007 at 2:18 AM  

Iran and Saudi Arabia each claim to have the "True Islam". They're fighting a proxy war in Iraq. One has Muqwaq and his death squads,while the other has Al Qaida. Each has the petro dollars for a prolonged struggle.
NW,I'm not one to belittle someone's religion. But,I fail to see how you can view Islam as a religion of peace and tolerance. Muslims only have the religion because their forebears were conquered,and chose to convert rather than lose their heads. Someone born to Muslim parents risks being killed for simply choosing their own faith. Where is the tolerance in that? I can't respect a God that says women are worth only a fraction of what their brothers are valued,or a God that thinks a rapist can get his groove on in front of four witnesses. A woman shouldn't be forced to vie with three other wives for her husbands attention. Sorry,I know you're stuck with Islam. But that don't make it right.

June 19, 2007 at 9:19 AM  

NIW, I thought you would be intrested in this study of Iraq's fast dwindling academics, scientists, teachers:

Iraq's lost generation

Over 830 assassinations have been documented, victims killed along with their
families. Numbers includes: 380 university academics and doctors, 210 lawyers
and judges, and 243 journalists/media workers ...

June 19, 2007 at 10:54 AM  

Yes Neurotic I can read it just fine. You just have to scroll up a little bit.

As far as rape in Iraq goes, it's undoubtably happening alot. Not just to Iraqi women but even to American female soldiers.
Read below

Many female soldiers say they are sexually assaulted by their male comrades and can't trust the military to protect them. "The knife wasn't for the Iraqis," says one woman. "It was for the guys on my own side."

Rape, sexual assault and harassment are nothing new to the military. They were a serious problem for the Women's Army Corps in Vietnam, and the rapes and sexual hounding of Navy women at Tailhook in 1991 and of Army women at Aberdeen in 1996 became national news. A 2003 survey of female veterans from Vietnam through the first Gulf War found that 30 percent said they were raped in the military. A 2004 study of veterans from Vietnam and all the wars since, who were seeking help for post-traumatic stress disorder, found that 71 percent of the women said they were sexually assaulted or raped while in the military. And in a third study, conducted in 1992-93 with female veterans of the Gulf War and earlier wars, 90 percent said they had been sexually harassed in the military, which means anything from being pressured for sex to being relentlessly teased and stared at.

"That's one of the things I hated the most," said Caryle García, 24, who, like Naylor, served with the Combat Military Police in Baghdad from 2003-04. García was wounded by a roadside bomb, which knocked her unconscious and filled her with shrapnel. "You walk into the chow hall and there's a bunch of guys who just stop eating and stare at you. Every time you bend down, somebody will say something. It got to the point where I was afraid to walk past certain people because I didn't want to hear their comments. It really gets you down."
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/03/07/women_in_military/index_np.html

June 19, 2007 at 5:44 PM  

Thruth about Iraqis, you've hit the nail on the head with this: And I am Iraqi. And we are all Iraqi. We must embrace that as our common ground and use it as a common foundation to move forward.

What America has done is to create the situation, not only in which Iraqis may embrace their common ground, but also apparently, the situation in which they must. It all depends upon whether or not Iraqis can be Iraqis above all and forgive each other for not being Sunni, Shia, Kurd, Christian, or anything else. There seem to be tentative moves in that direction, and it's very encouraging. Witness the Anbar tribal leaders teaming up with Iraqi and American troops to fight al Qaeda.

In spite of the horrors and bloodshed I continue to be optimistic. I think you guys are going to pull it off. I think the reconciliation will happen, and if it does the upside is just huge, not just for Iraq, but for the rest of the Middle East as well.

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