neurotic Iraqi wife
January 20, 2009
An Obama Day...
Yes, Im watching it. Isnt it amazing. I was bummed out when he stammered on his oath. Funny enough just before he started repeating the oath, I turned to HUBBY and said, watch how perfect he will say the words, he probably trained for this day a million times. Ummm, I guess I was wrong and HUBBY just rolled his eyes... :)
The speech though was just amazing. I liked it and dont really care what others might think. Im sure today many Americans are really proud to be Americans. About time too. On my personal facebook, many of my Iraqi ex-Coworkers who got their special Immigration Visas and have long been settled in the US, set their statuses a few days ago by thanking Bush for the life changing opportunity. Others though had "Hoping Obama will bring sunshine back to Iraq" on theirs.
Yeah I guess many are hopeful while others arent too optimistic. Im just keeping my fingers crossed. Lets see what he will bring on. I chatted with a few of my work colleagues back in Iraq. I was told many changes are taking place at work, and there are plans for many to leave and work on reachback just like me with one exception, they will have an office to work from and not imprisoned in a flat 24/7. Im not so sure how long they will keep me doing what Im doing. I think my time will be up pretty soon. Are the changes a direct result of Obama winning?
Oh and me being the financial analyst that I am, decided to give HUBBY some advice and said, "hey HUBBY, why dont you buy some shares, I bet you on inaugaration day everything will go green" Umm, just an hour ago he told me he is down big time. Oooooops, hehe. I guess I may have to take my masters degree again. Atleast he was smiling when he said it, someone else would have probably strangled me. But it did seem logical for shares to go up wonder why it didnt...Does anyone know?
I better get going, I dont feel like writing a long post today. I wanna continue watching Obama and just enjoy the scenes afore me. Today is a nice day. An Obama Day...
The speech though was just amazing. I liked it and dont really care what others might think. Im sure today many Americans are really proud to be Americans. About time too. On my personal facebook, many of my Iraqi ex-Coworkers who got their special Immigration Visas and have long been settled in the US, set their statuses a few days ago by thanking Bush for the life changing opportunity. Others though had "Hoping Obama will bring sunshine back to Iraq" on theirs.
Yeah I guess many are hopeful while others arent too optimistic. Im just keeping my fingers crossed. Lets see what he will bring on. I chatted with a few of my work colleagues back in Iraq. I was told many changes are taking place at work, and there are plans for many to leave and work on reachback just like me with one exception, they will have an office to work from and not imprisoned in a flat 24/7. Im not so sure how long they will keep me doing what Im doing. I think my time will be up pretty soon. Are the changes a direct result of Obama winning?
Oh and me being the financial analyst that I am, decided to give HUBBY some advice and said, "hey HUBBY, why dont you buy some shares, I bet you on inaugaration day everything will go green" Umm, just an hour ago he told me he is down big time. Oooooops, hehe. I guess I may have to take my masters degree again. Atleast he was smiling when he said it, someone else would have probably strangled me. But it did seem logical for shares to go up wonder why it didnt...Does anyone know?
I better get going, I dont feel like writing a long post today. I wanna continue watching Obama and just enjoy the scenes afore me. Today is a nice day. An Obama Day...
71 Comments:
I was actually expecting some kind of a nosedive Neurotica. Simple reason, the stock markets have already factored Obama's presidency in some time ago and as traditionally is the case, inauguration speeches don't offer a lot of detailed guidance the stock markets usually seek. I also think that the speech carried a tone that has brought people back to planet earth in terms of what to expect from team Obama and the realization that Obama doesn't have the magic wand to turn things around as soon as he is sweared in. The fact that seem to have fallen off the radars of many in the US and around the globe.
And from an Iraqi point of view,
be it Obama or McCain, it won't make a difference. US foreign policy is not drawn by the president especially not strategic issues.
I don't want to sound negative about the "voice for change" that everybody is hearing these days but let's not forget that most of us spend too much time on the last twenty-four hours and too little on the last decades of human history! don't you think so?
I'm sure not a fan of Obama, but I find it interesting to listen to someone from another country comment on our President being sworn in. Thanks NIW, God Bless!
As someone who lives in North America, when Mr.Bush left on the Helicopter, it was like a great darkness was lifted off the land.
That's a shame Anon. I think you're listening to others too much. My prediction: We're all going to miss Bush sooner rather than later.
US foreign policy is not drawn by the president especially not strategic issues.
Leo, you are wrong about that. The Executive branch has the sole authority to conduct foreign policy, according to the US Constitution. The President is the head of the executive branch, and the State Department works directly for him.
US foreign policy will be whatever Obama says it is, for as long as he is President.
Neurotica, what did you think of the speech? I didn't see it live, but read it online afterwards. The test will come when he starts announcing details of his plans to get some of those things done.
"Im sure today many Americans are really proud to be Americans."
Not sure what you mean, we are always proud of America.
"But it did seem logical for shares to go up wonder why it didnt...Does anyone know?"
I heard a good answer on TV, the guy said:
"They gave him (Obama) the oath, not a magic wand"
Leo, I still would have expected some rise in shares even for a short time. As for negativity, I know what you mean. But I will try and be hopeful atleast for now. The road ahead is long for him. Lets see what he is going to do. Btw are you follwoing the Iraqi elections? Did you hear of the assasinations that took place?
TCG, I guess my interest stems from it affecting my own country. Btw, I always knew or felt Julie was a man, she was too vicious, lol. So it turned out to be her HUBBY giving me all these lectures :)
Anon, I was thinking, good riddance. Never liked that man. Ughhhh
PG, im very interested in his foregign policy. Actually lets see what he does about Guantanamo, thats his first test. Then ofcourse lets see what he does about this failing financial economy...Im curious
Madtom, many people were feeling low for being American during Bush's adminstration. Many were scared. Now, I think alot feel good. And Im not bringing this from nowhere, I read many people saying it.
PG, im very interested in his foregign policy. Actually lets see what he does about Guantanamo, thats his first test. Then ofcourse lets see what he does about this failing financial economy...Im curious
I'm a bit worried. The speech was good, but I'm concerned he may be all talk and no action. I hope not, because we really need a President who can clean up at least some of these messes. If he can do half as well as Reagan did when he took over from Carter, I'll vote for him in 2012 :)
many people were feeling low for being American during Bush's adminstration. Many were scared. Now, I think alot feel good. And Im not bringing this from nowhere, I read many people saying it.
Well, I'm not going to try to anecdotaly dispute that, but you have to realize what you seen coming from Americans on blogs is not a representative sample :)
Leftists are virtually non-existent in the United States (we're mostly moderates, trending to the right), for instance, but they probably account for about half of all bloggers and blog commenters. We are so far to the right of Europe, I think even our democrats would be considered conservative there. You'd never know that from what gets posted on the internet, though!
It was a great day in the U.S. Two million people turned out because they have the hope Obama can reverse the damage 8 years of Bush have caused and bring us back to our original intended way of government of the people, for the people. By the way Obama screwed up on the oath because the Chief Justice who read it did it incorrectly and that through Obama off. Hoping Obama's election will lead to a better world and life for all. Sunshine
Ah, 'Conservative' Gardener, I think those of a certain ideology will miss him, maybe the 'Conservative' minded. He left a nation in massive debt, a war based on lies groomed to sell. Outted a F.B.I. agent and got away with it. O.K.'d Waterboarding, which is torture but not to him and his right hand man. And I'm sure the Hundreds of thousands dead Iraqi's would rather be alive under Saddam than dead under Bush.
But those things were done in darkness, and welcome to the light. Sometimes a person's beliefs can blind their minds.
AS TO THE MARKET PLUNGE: Historically the market has always dropped on Inaugeration day. No surprise there.
AS TO THE OATH: The Chief Justice, administering the oath, just screwed up. Probably a combination of nerves and over-confidence. Justice Roberts was trying to do it from memory, and not reading from a card. He later apologized to Obama admitting "my fault."
So is Hubby back in Iraq, or not?
mimi
NIW, My wife wanted you know that she's the nice one :). I've actually got a picture of us on my blog. I will say that I always thought that you might of thought I was a man because of my......umm....not viciousnes..but...sharpness,that's it!
The market drop was the largest inauguration day drop in history. The reason is complex, but it is mostly that Obama's plans are not expected to be good for business. His ideas about spending his way out of the hard times are the same thing FDR did and it prolonged the great depression by several years. His tax policy ideas are the same as Jimmy Carter's and they led to a stagnant economy with high inflation and high unemployment. So while the "masses" may be rejoicing, the marketplace is gripped by fear of what Obama and the democratic congress might try to do. The post election sell off in November was also the largest post-election sell off in history...so don't talk yourself into thinking the drops are coincidence...they are not.
As for being proud to be an American, you need to understand one thing...most of us are indeed proud to be Americans no matter who is our president. American stands for alot more than just who is leading her at any given point in time. America is an idea about freedom as much as it is a country and that idea is something to be proud of, regardless of who is president. I didn't vote for Obama, and didn't particularly like voting for McCain, but I am not less proud of being American today because my guy didn't win.
Craig is right that the president DOES set the foreign policy, and Obama will get to play a heavy hand there, but I doubt we will see big changes right away, because making large and rapid changes in foreign policy tends to rattle your allies and embolden you enemies. Foreign plicy changes will be small, and will likely focus on opening new avenues of dialogue and shading different nuances on traditional positions.
As others have said, Obama took an oath, but it didn't come with a magic wand. He does have a very friendly congress that is eager to chart a new course with his agenda, but they all know the pitfalls of trying to do too much too fast and doing it on party line votes. If they try to ram their agenda through too fast and completely run over the republicans in the process, then they will be hanging it all around their own necks like an albatross...and anything that doesn't work or that brings about unintended negative consequences will unquestionably be their fault. There is no president bush to blame things on anymore, so as the party in power, the democrats will be expected to shoulder blame for everything that goes wrong on their watch. They will likely be careful about what they do in the opening months here so as not to cause themselves undue hardship in the 2010 midterm elections. Those are likely to be difficult for the democrats, as many of the candidates who rode Obama's coattails into office won't have that luxury in 2010.
Outted a F.B.I. agent and got away with it.
It was actually a CIA Agent. But I do agree the Bush Administration did a lot of damage that will take years to repair.
But I do agree the Bush Administration did a lot of damage that will take years to repair.
And things could get much worse, instead. We simply don't know, yet. Carter was elected in the post Vietnam era to correct problems that were much worse than what the US is facing now... and he failed, miserably. Obama doesn't need a blank check, he needs to be challenged to deliver what he has promised.
Neurotica,
I didn’t get a chance to see the inauguration. I only saw pictures on the internet of the parade and the ball and all the festivities.
But do you know I what I noticed that really caught my attention the most?
With all the trillions of people and all the distractions and chaos of the day, here is this man who has just been elected to one of the most powerful leadership positions. I mean talk about being at the PEAK of his career and seeing his dreams come true before his eyes…,and amongst all of this success,making history and the pride he must feel for himself and his country………
However, did you see the look in that man’s eyes and the way he looked at his wife? It meant more to him to be enjoying that moment with her, than the moment itself.
Did you notice what I did?
NAW
Anon,
Did you just call me conservative??!! OK now it's on!
"Sometimes a person's beliefs can blind their minds." Or sometimes a person's belief can help keep their minds from being polluted. Which one are you? I know one thing, your mind is causing you to type things that are wrong. That might be a clue.
1. "a war based on lies groomed to sell."- Ummm....ok. Let's go over this one more time. At the conclusion on the 1st Iraq war where we defended Kuwait, Saddam sign a contract. A contract. As in a contract! We(USA) agreed not to capture Baghdad and all of Iraq with some conditions. One of those conditions was he had to tell us where the WMD's were or tell us what he did with them. He did not. After 17 or 18 or 50 UN resolutions, he still did not. He broke the contract, blinded one. And after 9/11 there was no more grace & mercy on broken contracts that involved WMD's. I mean it's quite simple. It's the reason that liberal's calling for Bush to be arrested are looked at like idiots. They're blinded by their incorrect beliefs.
2. The CIA agent wasn't outed by the Bush peeps. That's why they weren't charged.
I mean, must I go on? Somebody's blinded, and I'm pretty confident it's not me.
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Calling all socialists/communists! I've got some pictures of the homeland on my blog. I took them on my trip to Cuba a couple years ago. Check it out: http://theconservativegardener.blogspot.com/
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Newcomer here. I just want to say you should be glad Obama stumbled on his speech - it shows the guy is a mere mortal after all! The one thing I had disliked about him was that he was simply too perfect an orator (which of course means he has the potential to be an amazing liar).
Obama's stammering shows us that he's just a fallible guy, like the rest of us. I'm relieved to see this human side to him.
Obama really can change things. Two posts ago you said "Even my belief in Obama has disappeared", now you are in love again. :D
riverScrap, Obama didn't stumble, see mimi's comment above.
I often wonder what I would have done if I had been president no longer than Bush had and received all the messages from congress that he did. People accusing Bush need to see who supported the Iraqi invasion. It can be seen here
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Anon / Mimi: The Chief Justice may have misplaced the word 'faithfully', but anyone who saw the inauguration will have seen that Obama stumbled on two counts. He spoke too soon for his first utterance, and then he needed to cue the Chief Justice to remind him what he should be saying on his second utterance. But again: I'm glad he did! People should stop portraying his as some kind of Jesus figure and just accept that the guy's humans.
I'm really glad Obama is president now, but he isn't gonna change the world overnight. America still has an awful lot of problems and just one man (even a centrist who's great at giving speeches) won't fix them all. Let's stop looking for soundbytes and just judge the guy on his work!
To answer your stock market question...all the big wigs and hot shots were at the inauguration and those left to make trades were the bottom of the totem poll. So as the phrase goes...when the cats away the mice will play. And these mice don't know what they are doing.
Just a silly way of looking at things but as many have said before historically the day where a peaceful transition of power (as if no other country can peacefully transition power) occurs in the States is not a great day for Wall St.
Bright side the market had somewhat of a rebound today...
Lol Ahmed thats a fun way of looking at it. As you said it did go up though yesterday.
river, I do agree that we did see some human side there. And yes he does have a long way ahead. Many people are cynical and say he wont do much, after the Gaza war, watching him continue playing his golf didnt really give me good vibes, but maybe just maybe things will change. Lets just see.
Ok Fred, question for you, had you been president, would you have gone for war with Iraq?
Anon,not in love, but lets just say keeping my fingers crossed that he will take all the right decisions. I like Obama, but it seems to me all presidents are icy cold :(
Lol TCG, I just love reading your words. Thank God it aint JUlie talking here :)
NAW, I sure did. I was saying to HUBBY the same thing.I would love to know how did Obama feel that specific moment. Can you imagine? And I can see the love he has for his wife. As you said, his eyes said it all. Its just is amazing to see that a dream can come true, no matter how impossible it seems.
Actually Tex, I may differ there about not blaming Bush. I think as Obama will get deeper into things he will see what a messed up dish Bush has left over for him. People will blam Bush for many things. As for the markets, yeah I read it was the worst day ever on inauguration day. I still find it strange.
Mimi, HUBBY still comes and goes. Right now he is with me, but in a few days he is going back :(
Would I have gone to war with Iraq? I truly don't know. If Sadam had not ousted the UN WMD inspectors I think I would have waited.
I would have. In 1991. Or, rather, I would have finished the job, back then. It would have been a lot less painful for everyone, I think. But not in 2003.
Was War an expression of Hidden Neglect? Like... why Pray for the people behind the Iron Curtain. The Jane Curtain, my undoing. Saturday Night Vladimir. A Cone Head, who knew? You know how to pick up what falls. What sense in observing destruction?
NIW-
Not that I whant to dwell on the subject, but, remember your friend Olaff? I haven't seen him (I think he was a him) post in a while. But back when I first started commenting on your blog about 1 1/2 years ago, I think he flirted with me! Do you remember? Because if he did I feel a little wierd. And maybe guilty for leading him on! lol
I have wondered about Olaff as well. Do you know what happened to him.
A Witch gave him a poison apple.
Oh No Edit Mommies, maybe we can find him in the forest with the seven dwarfs and you can give him a magic kiss to undo the evil of the witch.
I too was wondering what happened to him!!!Just the other day I was thinkin about him. Hmmmm, maybe I should send him an email and see if everything is ok with him, its very unlike him not to stop by, its been ages
Hello madam,
i myself feel so hopeful about Mr. obama and his era..
it will take a great psrt in iraq issues, so ,maybe we'll see a difference, a big difference.
accept my regards,
Soleil
Kathy you can help me Pee on him. I hope he doesn't get angry.
Ok but only if you do it first. He won't be angry he will be thankful that we saved him.
follow this link...
http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a2505951eef1962011ef565e2f30014
Now if only Olaf could save us when they repossess our cottage?
Wow, I can't believe I fell for that and really watched that video!! How come the guy was not getting burned when he was putting his hand in the boiling water. Sorry I'm a little ADHD today I could'nt really focus on what the video was about because I could not figure how his skin was not burning off.
Back on topic: Obama.
I have one question for all you Obama suporters. What have you done? Case in point:
1. When asked by a reporter, "Are we involved in a War on Terror" Obama's press secretary said,and I roughly qoute, "ugh.....ummm....I..ah.......uuughhhh...I think......ugghhh I think I covered that yesterday" What? Serious? You can't say we're involved in a War on Terror? Better tell al qaeda.
2.Presidential Executive Order to eliminate Gitmo. OK let me ask a question. Since a bunch a countries won't take the detainees back ( I wonder why?) let's just take the prisoners, put them on a boat and ship them to your town or city. When they get there, can we let them loose? No? Why not? Because you know the real story is they're dangerous war captives, otherwise you wouldn't mind them being loose. And if that's the case what do you do with them? I think Gitmo is a great choice. They were captured trying to kill our guys! What's wrong with keeping them in Gitmo? And if you're going to use an Executive Order, how can you wait a year to figure out what to do? They're prisoners of war for crying out loud. Oh yeah, unless it's not really a war.
3. Executive Order to reinstate sending US money to support INTERNATIONAL groups who perform or advise people on abortions. I'm passionate about this one. Even if you have no problems with abortion, (I still can't figure out the argument that abortion is not killing human life. When your Mom found out she was 4 weeks pregnant and had decided to get an abortion, YOU wouldn't be here! That's killing life. Period.) you've still got to be concerned about the US spending tax money on international abortions! Don't you? It's a bad economy, right? I mean what business does the government have paying for abortions? Never mind INTERNATIONAL abortions. Oh boy.
You know I've been hurt bad by the bad economy. I own a Plumbing Company, and 2 years ago I had 70 employees. Today I have 7. My company has been trashed. But that's life, I'm still kicking. But......I've also changed my lifestyle. No more lawn man, cleaning lady, eating out at Outback once or twice a week, paying someone to change my oil in my truck, going to the grocery store on a whim a buying anything I want, and so on. No, I cut coupons, I grow a garden. Because it's what you do when finances are short. So why would the government spend money on INTERNATIONAL abortions? Never mind that government paying for abortions is.....well..sick.
This is what's going to go on for the next 4 years. Why? I have an opinion, and you're not going to like it. It's Godlessness. It's not the only reason, but the biggest reason. I find that liberalism generally doesn't have room for a Creator. When there is no God, where does your moral authority come from?.....YOU! You become God, or Hollywood does or Mankind or Ambition or Wealth or Lesbianism or the Enviorment or Popularity or Power or Government or Obama or whatever YOU decide. It's a shame.
You know I've read over the years, especially from liberals, that the electorial college is dumb and we don't need it. Actually the founding fathers (Adams, Jefferson, etc.) knew there was a problem with majority rule. As America was getting started, France was having a crazy revolution. It was mob rule and people where running around hanging people and cutting heads off. The majority! So they set up a representitive republic to offset, a little, the majority. The majority is important but they can't be the end all. Otherwise the majority could decide to let husbands kill their wives if they suspect them of adultery (hmmm), or kill anybody with red hair. This is how I see people living without acknowledging a Creator. Just running around using their own opinions or self-interests as a moral authority doing whatever they can to worship their made up god.
Again..... what have you done? :(
TO: Conservative Gardner"
1. Re: closing Gitmo. Obviously you didn't LISTEN to the Executive Order. It called for "study of how to get Gitmo closed within a year." You're so eager to trash Obama that you won't even wait til the recommendations on 'how' are articulated. That's when you can rant about how you don't want Gitmo closed.
2. re: Abortion. * When does life begin? at conception? *do you endorse/support organ transplants? At what point does a person become medically dead enough to become an organ donor? Accepted ethical and medical guidelines say "when there's no brain waves detected." Flatline = no life. Does the absence of brain waves in an 8-cell zygote mean there's life? I think not. If you condemn a 12 week abortion, you must also condemn organ transplants. (Hope you never need a kidney)
Anon-
Seriously? The abortion comment made me laugh.lol. So when the brain is being formed from scratch and when it's fading from life..........it's an equal happening? OK. If you say so. It amazes me the lengths people go to defend killing innocent life. What a shame. Organ transplants? lolol! It's so simple to me, when you where an 8-cell whatever, if your mom had an abortion you wouldn't be here. IN other words No Life. Gone. But even if abortion is saintly behaviour why should the government pay for international abortions?
Here's another question. How many war protesters are pro-abortion? Would you agree that they are usually one and the same? And how many times do you here them bemoan the deaths of soldiers? Soldiers who volumteered to fight for their country and if their life is taken, they died with honor. Their way. But the same people come up with every arguement and angle to dismiss killing innocent life. How can you really argue when life starts? Before egg is fertilized = no life. After egg is fertilized = life starts. That's why men wear rubbers, because they know when life starts!
As far as Gitmo, no it did not just call for the study of how to close it. He signed an Executive Order to close it. Period. The study is to figure out what to do with the detainees. How about your town?
Gardener:
Although I'm usually arguing against liberals on this issue (who try to disguise abortion as an issue of women's rights when in reality it's an issue of unborn rights) because of my right-center stance on the issue, anon above has a point. I mean, you say abortion is murder because if your Mom had one you wouldn't be here. But by that same logic, isn't abstinence murder? If your Mom was an eternal virgin, you wouldn't be here either.
Just as we all accept life ends when brain waves cease, we should accept that life begins when brain waves begin. That goes for both conservatives and liberals.
-Dennis
I like the Chinese Hip_hop Article at the http://www.nytimes.com/. In sound and energy it is very reminiscent of religious practice. Punch right through a vagina.
Hey my names Dennis as well.....
One big, huge difference. With abstinence human life hasn't begun yet. The brain waves do not start unless conception happens. You weren't you until conception. Period. That's why at the end of my comment I said "Before egg is fertilized = no life. After egg is fertilized = life starts. That's why men wear rubbers, because they know when life starts!" The whole point is once conception has happened human life has begun, and to stop it is to..........what?
And I still haven't heard an answer as why we would want the government to pay for abortions. International ones at that.
I'm not for what Obama is doing, but life only starts at conception in the sense that cells begin multiplying. Do we consider anything else ETHICALLY alive(as opposed to scientifically alive, in which case the fertilized egg IS alive) just because it grows?
(I'm kind of busy this week so I might have to drop out this argument soon, but I'll respond if I can)
-Dennis
I do believe that the "Gardener" is a Conservative/Republican who is stuck in the past. At least the U.S. has a President who can pronounce Nuclear now, at least that's a good sign. There's an old saying "Theres the wrong way, the right way, and the Republican way", unfortunately the U.S. is enjoying the Fiscal Melt down of the Republican way.
My friends dog, Cain ate a groundhog he found at a secluded tennis court on the top of a woody hill. I don't know if Cain was helping? Maybe if Cain the dog and myself could somehow live with the Groundhog we could get the Mayor a new tennis court, underground. One thing for sure I will never leave this vagina no matter how bright the delivery room may look. I'm sure Cain's emotional resonance tested the Groundhog before chomping. Next argumant.
Hi neurotica
I have been reading your blog on and off for several months. I must say that I like your style of writing and your humour which comes through very well. You have managed to put your thoughts and views clearly and I admire your attachment to Iraq after so many years of living abroad. I also enjoy the other bloggers' comments although some of them take themselves and their opinions too seriously.
I just happened to hear an i pod cast of an old interview you had with Jonathan Curial. I was surprised to hear your American accent (I was expecting an english one)!
Keep up the good work(blog)
Julie, aka her husband planting seeds, with all due respect.....When is the last time that you 'felt a child in your womb?" Did you care for three or four or two or one, while working full time, to near death of yourself? While planting that extra vine of tomaotoes, to help with the hardship, did you pass out while life grew within you, but your body could not support it? You dropped your seeds to the ground, wiped off the dust and searched in your pockets, and there was nothing to be found....and life grew within you? and there was no one to help and your children were starving because you couldn't feed them and life grew within your womb robbing you of your life.......life that you needed to feed your young. Until you have life growing in your womb, your opinion means nothing to someone who needs financial support to provide a medical need to end a the growth of a life so that can she can support the life that is already here. Go plant some artichokes and while you are at it, please tell Edit _ Mommies about Little Red Riding Hood and what happened to the Big Bad Wolfe and then later explain to him why there is a hole in the middle of a 45 record and tell him to go amuze himself and make it rhyme is that's what it takes. Needless to say, I am PRO - Choice....and until you have life growing 'WIthin you.", YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
Actually I do have a choice............abstinence!
The problem I have with your response.......the selfishness of it. You see, it's all about YOUR choice. What about the baby's choice? I've travelled to places where kids are really poor. Not American poor, but for real poor. No food....as in NO FOOD! No shoes, huts for houses, no couch, no TV, everybody sleeps in the same bed, no pictures hanging on the wall, shirts that have the "Wonderbread" logo on it even though they live in a country where there is no Wonderbread (the shirt was given to them through some sort of benevolant program). And I bet if you asked them if they wish their mom would have aborted them their answer would be............aaahh...no.
I'm glad my alcholic, single mother didn't choose "choice".
Just because you carry the baby doesn't give you the right to CHOOSE to end it's life.
I think that's selfish.
I just love the arguements here. Its very informative to know the differences in opinion. Although I cant wait to start having a family of my own, and I believe every life is a precious one, I have to put myself in other people's shoes. Its a complicated issue. Yes they can give it up for adoption, if the couple or mom cant take care of the child. At the same time, if for medical issues the woman has to give it up, then yes Im pro abortion. Why bring a child who is sick etc in this tough rough world.
Onto something completely different, do you guys think closing down Guantenamo is a good idea?I think Im gonna write about that in my next post.
Chilled Iraqi wife, lol, I like that name. Wish I was chilled too. I never had an english accent, I do have a few words that are very British which my American coworkers used to make fun of, but all in all, I think my accent is more of an INternational one, dont you think?
"please tell Edit _ Mommies about Little Red Riding Hood and what happened to the Big Bad Wolfe and then later explain to him why there is a hole in the middle of a 45 record and tell him to go amuze himself and make it rhyme is that's what it takes. Needless to say, I am PRO - Choice....and until you have life growing 'WIthin you.", YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE." - anoan
I don't want to be responsible after your tantrum. Did you defeat all the opponent peoples little Pro-Choicer? Your breadth in society in only so large why not plan a life that is positive?
They affectionately call the place GITMO. The invisible Nationalist, Kennedy's spectral focus. I hope they build a giant bio-mechanical space centurion. One foot in Cuba, the other in Florida. A phallus piping semen directly into the Bermuda triangle. The last time any of us saw a white person on TV? Is it possible we accomplish a giant talking magnet for a President? A man that tends his fields with the nail clipping of his deceased pets.
Abstinence...?
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/115324.php
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."
Boy Anon, you're a sharp one.
Abstinence! As in if I choose not to hook up with you, I have choosen not to give you a choice. Jeesh!
If I'm not mistaken you said: "I am PRO - Choice....and until you have life growing 'WIthin you.", YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE."
I say I do have a choice.....your not gettin' any! lol!
P.S. -(nice use of the scripture, I guess I don't have to tell you who qouted scripture out in the desert with Jesus?)
By the way if you want to talk "Abstinence EDUCATION" than you can find articles that say the opposite of your article. It's almost a waste of time to argue with you about it....but....
The Heritage Foundation, a public-policy research organization, published the following information in Policy Social Welfare analyst Melissa G. Pardue's Dec. 2, 2004 article titled "Waxman Report Is Riddled with Errors and Inaccuracies":
"There are currently 10 evaluations showing the effectiveness of abstinence education in reducing teen sexual activity. Of these 10 evaluations, four were published in peer-reviewed journals.
Additionally, an April 2003 study published in Adolescent and Family Health found that increased abstinence was the major cause of declining birth and pregnancy rates among teen girls. This study found that increased abstinence accounted for 67 percent of the decline in pregnancy rate for teen girls ages 15 to 19. Similarly, 51 percent of the drop in the birth rate for single teen girls was attributed to abstinence. A similar study released in the August 2004 Journal of Adolescent Health attributes 53 percent of the decline in pregnancy rates for 15-17 year olds to decreased sexual activity, which was larger than the decline attributed to contraceptive use."
Dec. 2, 2004 - Heritage Foundation
That would probably be relevant if I wasn't 40 years old....and with a license plate on my car that says, 'GET N IT'....I don't need some from you.
If I remember right, I was the one with the 'Apple' and you just came to 'pick em' Mr. Gardener.'.
I'm so 'full of it'. I think I argue to see what else you come out with.
Arguing aside, I can see your viewpoint as well. There are always two sides to the coin and I respect your opinion.
How about that Mrs. Obama?
I wonder how her children are coping with all the change and turmoil. That must be truly difficult mostly, on the children. I try very hard to give my children structure and security and a peaceful home, and of course, religion.
God Bless you and Julie.
P.S. -(nice use of the scripture, I guess I don't have to tell you who qouted scripture out in the desert with Jesus
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Satan misquoted scripture to Jesus to try to deceive Him in the desert, those above are the words of Christ. Hit a nerve?
I bet you think the 10 Commandments are things to 'live' by, they are 10 things to die by:
"But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:..." Paul
And what is known, is the Puritans of the day are the ones who called for Christs Crucifixion.
neurotic_wife said...
Onto something completely different, do you guys think closing down Guantenamo is a good idea?I think Im gonna write about that in my next post.
Speaking as a former soldier, perhaps this will be useful to consider: Taking prisoners is a dangerous business -- much more dangerous than just shooting them after they raise their hands (for instance, they could be wearing a bomb belt, or their friends could be waiting to shoot you). For a combat soldier there is only one reason to take prisoners: To get information. Now that American shoplifters can be more harshly interrogated than can captured enemy combatants, how eager will American soldiers be to take prisoners?
RRH
Conservative Gardener:
I don't think you are going to get an answer to your actual question (why should the US fund abortions in other countries?). I was wondering the same thing. Although I do not agree with you on the abortion issue. Why should the US fund abortions internationally? But, as I'm sure you will agree "or not" that is the great thing about America. I will not be chastised or have to feel like my life or someone in my family may be in danger because I don't agree with you. I am free to my opinions and the religion of my choice without fear of reprimand. I hope you find your answer but I doubt it will be here.
Wow Miss Girl, you sound so normal!
Actually I already know the answer, just wanted to see Obama supporters try to defend the undefendable.
LOL, what do you mean by normal? Not like a hillbilly? I have yet to see any Obama supporters come up with an answer. Did you see the interview with Nancy Pelosi when she was asked how giving out free condomns in school was going to help the economy? Uh, because, duh! No answer, of course!!!
I meant normal as opposed to the Anon chick I've been debating with.
Oh ok, I get that alot though. Living in the deep south has its downfalls. As you know
anon wrote:
TO: Conservative Gardner"
1. Re: closing Gitmo. Obviously you didn't LISTEN to the Executive Order. It called for "study of how to get Gitmo closed within a year."
If you look at the actual language of the EO, it really doesn't do much in the way of "radical change". Lots of legal loopholes and wiggle room. Bush and McCain also expressed an interest in closing Guantanamo; but the complexities of the "how to" is being realized by the Obama Administration. It's a reality check. And what they've done, as Axelrod himself said in a recent NYTimes article, is giving a "sense" of movement, of immediate change. But this is just smoke and mirror appearances for the sake of world opinion and placating the huge "magic wand" expectations of so many. Look at the actual language in the EO that revoked Bush's 2007 EO on interrogations. Much of what appears in Obama's EO on Ensuring Lawful Interrogations sounds much like the EO 13440 it just revoked!
Another useful post. Also from Politico.
Good Newsweek cover story. President Obama may find himself right back where the Bush Administration was.
I love your blog, neurotic Iraqi wife, even if we don't agree politically. Your perspective has on occasion, softened my partisan views and helped me see the other side of things. Thank you for that.
I think my accent is more of an INternational one, dont you think?
It's American :P
Seriously, you sound like you are from Los Angeles! Which is the accent of Hollywood, and maybe that could be called "International", even though it isn't!
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