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neurotic Iraqi wife

November 09, 2007

Tired Exhausted Soul...

Its been a long time since I heard anything from my Iraqi coworkers that left to the States on the US special Visa. There is a yahoo group though that we set up for everyone so we all can keep intouch and see whats going on with their new lives. Many people have already gotten their SSN and are working on their drivers license. There are three guys in Philadelphia who are still looking for jobs. One guy in Virginia decided to take up a translator offer. Others have started jobs with the companies that they worked for here.

E, is leaving in a few weeks. She got offered to stay with an elderly couple who are willing to guide her through the first few months of her new life. E wears hijab and she started asking me all sorta questions. I didn’t really know what to answer. She asked me whether the hijab will cause problems for her while in the US and whether it will impede her chances of getting a job. All I was able to tell her was that there’s a lot of Muslims wearing hijab in the States so it shouldn’t be a problem. But at the same time, I did tell her that it might cause a few difficulties in the beginning. Especially after 9/11 where perceptions have been tainted. She told me that an excoworker of ours did actually remove hers the minute she set foot in Washington.

Im kinda perplexed. Should she remove it or shouldn’t she? In Islam, once you decide to put it on, its really a sin to remove it. E started wearing hers during Saddam’s Islamic phase. She didn’t really do it for the sake of religion, but infact to avoid hungry eyes. After awhile though, she felt so comfortable that she decided to keep it on for religious reasons. I remember how one time while I was going in the bathroom, I saw a lady standing infront of the mirror with the most beautiful long hair Ive ever seen. It was so bouncy and healthy. When I realized it was none other than E, I was totally shocked. She looked like a completely different person. I remember telling her, I know I shouldn’t be saying this but its such a pity youre covering your beautiful hair.

E is a very modern open minded person. She isn’t your typical strict muslim lady. Even her attire is fashionable yet conservative. The family she is gonna stay with are neighbours of friends of the friends of a military guy that works somewhere in our compound. Its kinda comforting to know that there are many people back in the States that are willing to help. E was overwhelmed. She said “Neurotica, how come they are willing to offer me a room with them and they don’t even know me?”. I smiled and said “well E, I think there are a lot of people who want to lend a hand simply because they feel guilty of what their govt did to Iraq, others are actually generous to start with”. “But Neurotica, none of my siblings ever offered to help me out, not even my sister who lives in London, yet, these strangers are too kind with me”.

Yes, reality of it, strangers can be more generous than your own family. Anyways, the question here is, should E give up what she believes in order to integrate with her new life and surroundings? Or should she abide by her principles and see where that leads her to? She already told me, that she sent the family she is going to be staying with pictures of her without the head cover. They wrote her back telling her how surprised they are by seeing an Iraqi woman dressed in modern clothing, and not wearing “the black robe” to cover themselves. E wrote them back and explained to them that not all Iraqis are like that. Infact, she also told them how back in the 60’s and 70’s women used to wear the mini dresses just like the Europeans.

I think with all the Iraqis that have left, its gonna be one helluva an eye opening experience. Both for them and for the people they will deal with. It reminds me of my first days in university in London, where everyone used to ask me whether we ride camels in Abu Dhabi. I found it extremely interesting that there are still people out there who have a wrong image about the Arab countries. Infact, they are not even aware that some Arab cities, eg Dubai, is far more European than Europe itself.

Back to E and her Dilemma. In my opinion, I think she should do what she feels is right. Wearing hijab is the most beautiful thing in Islam. Ive contemplated it many times, but I guess my time hasn’t come yet. E is leaving very soon. E is very anxious, and at times panicky. Her disabled sister Amira, was refused a visa. Although E tried her best to tell them that she is her only guardian, they still refused. After 18 years of E taking care of Amira, she decided that its time for her to move on. To move on just for now. To move on, so she can one day be united with her sister, and only then will she be able to provide her the best healthcare in the world.

Yes, E is leaving, E is leaving and the to go box I bring her for lunch every day will soon be empty. Empty, just like my soul. My Tired Exhausted Soul…
posted by neurotic_wife at 3:28 PM

55 Comments:

The hijab is a symbol and acknowledgment of submission. Submit, and be saved! Or else ...

November 9, 2007 at 4:43 PM  

Are you fucking kidding me or what comparing arab cities to europe. You lousy country is a fucking desert and you better hold on to your camels because you aren’t gonna have no oil left soon…. all taken by US

November 9, 2007 at 5:47 PM  

So much for your blog having become "irrelevent" as you suggested in a comment to your prior post. Your blog has never has been irrelevent, in my opinion and for a variety of reasons, a principal one being because it invariably discusses human lives. Real human lives, from your perspective and in the context of your experience. What could be more relevent? Or more interesting?

My personal view, based upon my 40 plus years of life in Western Michigan, is that wearing hijab will have no negative consequences with the vast majority of people. I have seen a woman wearing hijab at my son's soccer game, at the grocery store, as a juror when I sat with her for jury selection, and at countless other times. I also see Indians, Pakistanis, and others wearing their "old country" attire.

You write:

Anyways, the question here is, should E give up what she believes in order to integrate with her new life and surroundings? Or should she abide by her principles and see where that leads her to?

I would not frame the issue as you have with these questions. The answer to these questions is easy, in my opinion, because one never sacrifices principles, even for the sake of integration. For me, the real issue is identifying what is a matter of principle, to be held to unwaverlingly in the face of all outside pressure, and what is a matter of taste, or preference or choice. Hijab, depending upon the person, could be either, as I know religous Muslims who feel it is a religious obligation and others who feel it is a matter of culture, alone. I also know persons of the "hijab is culture" variety who regard it as matter of harmless religous choice and other who regard it as both symbolic and actual oppression of women and a roadblock destined for removal in clearing the way for equal rights.

My advice to her: Be yourself. Be true to yourself. And expect the same from others.

November 9, 2007 at 6:23 PM  

neurotic_wife,

I just found your blog and read this post. I'm sure you get comments like those above regularly but I hope that you ignore all those ignorant fools.

I am not a Muslim and I do not really understand the significance of the hijab, but as a typical American I would recommend that E not wear it here. At least not when she first arrives. Most Americans do not understand what it means to wear the hijab and will be slightly uncomfortable around her. It will also make her a target for idiots like those that commented above.

Of course is she lives in an area of the country with a large Muslim population then there would be no reason not to wear it. And if she feels strongly about wearing it for religious reasons that she should wear it.

It breaks my heart to hear that her sister was refused a visa. I cannot imagine how someone would separate them if they understood the situation.

November 9, 2007 at 6:37 PM  

Of course my advice is boring and practical. AngloGermanicAmerican's advice is much better :)

November 9, 2007 at 6:39 PM  

HELLO NEUROTICA " THE EXHAUSTED SOUL" OR EMOTIONALLY DEPLETED OR DEPRESSED OR OTHER ADJECTIVES THAT MAY EXPLAIN THE CURRENT STALE SITUTION YOU ARE BEARING & PUTTING UP WITH ,PLUS PEOPLE EXITING THERE ALL THE TIME TO FORGE A BETTER FUTURE FORTHEMSELVES & ALL OF THAT TAKES A TOLL ON YOUR SOUL ,IT ALSO BRINGS TO THE FORE QUESTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE`S WAY OF LIFE & MY INSTINCT TELLS ME THAT "E" ONLY BECAME ,& EASED HERSELF INTO THE CONDITION OF BECOMING COMFORTABLE WEARING A COVER SCARFIN PAST & PRESENT DAY CONDITIONS IN IRAQ & MAY FIND THAT IN A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT THEWHOLE THING IRRELEVANT STILL THOUGH IF YOU FEEL THAT AUSTRALIA BRIGHTENS UP YOUR DAY & INVIGORATES YOU MAYBE BOTH OF YOU SHOULD THINK OF EVENTUALLY RAISING A FAMILY THERE & AWAY FROM A STIFLED SOULEXHAUSTING ATMOSPHERE?ALL THE BEST DARLING WWW.BFBS.COm YOUR OLAFF

November 9, 2007 at 7:39 PM  

Americans are free to wear what they want, unlike in most Muslim countries.

November 9, 2007 at 8:30 PM  

She should not wear one if she is not strictly religious and devoutly wants to wear one. for several reasons- to fit in with American culture, and also the fact that America is providing her a better life now and she should show gratitude to her new country by demonstrating "I stand with America now". Of course if she IS strictly religous and really wants to wear it she can, but if she is ambivalent she should join our American culture.

November 9, 2007 at 10:18 PM  

there is things in this world that labels people, and if the person decides to use it, he or she must know that it'll have consequences. for example, if i paint my hair of blue i'm making a statement, i'm labeling myself, and if i'm a manager in an insurance company i'll be certainly fired. in the same manner, hijab is currently a label in most western countries. it's a pity, but that's the reality and it must be considered by your friend.

November 9, 2007 at 11:00 PM  

SORRY NEUROTICA READING OVER THE PARGRPH: CLOSING SENTENCES READS AS THOUGH " STILLTHOUGH IF YOU FIND AUSTRALIA BRIGHTENING UP YOUR HORIZONS FOR YOU" I HAD NOT MEANT THAT TO READ AS THOUGH YOU & E; IT HAD BEEN MEANT YOU & YOUR HUBBY UPON VISITING AUSTRALIA & FINDING IT RELAXING & ENLIGHTNING & PROVIDING YOU A NEW PERSPECTIVE ON LIFE , AS FAR AS "E." GOES IT IS REALLY A CASE OF HER FINDING HER REAL PERSONALITY & WAY OF LIFE AWAY FROM THE INHIBITING ATMOSPHER OF SOCIAL UPHEAVEL IN BAGHDAD & SHE MAY WELL FIND HER MOTHER`S & GRANNY`S GENARATION OF THE 60s & 70s IRAQ HAD REFLECTED THE REAL SOCIAL FIBRE OF THE NATION & WAY OF LIFE & SO "E." MAY WELL WANT TO SHED THIS 30 YEARS OF CONTRIVED INHIBITIONS BEING IMPOSED BY ALL SORTS OF ELEMENTS NOT LEAST AMONGST THEM SORRY TO SAY IT AGAIN THEsinniste axis of eviliran & IT`S DOS & DONTS OF PROPER CLOTHES & CULTURAL EVERYDAY BEHAVIOUR WREAKING HAVOCK INTHE IRAQI SOCIAL STRUCTURE & RUNNING OUT ALL DONOMINATIONS OF RELIGIONS APART FROM THIER OWN BLOODY THUG MILITIAS??! THAT IS THE ATMOSPHER THAT "E ." & LOADS OF PEOPLE ENDURE THERE DAY IN & DAY OUT ALL THE BEST LUV TO ARELAXING AUSIE TRIP YOUR OLAFF

November 9, 2007 at 11:50 PM  

NIW, a very interesting blog again! To respond I think you should know that I am an Iraqi Muslim and have had the opportunity to live in Iraq, the Guld and Canada so I have seen the different perspectives of hijab. In general, we (Iraqis) all know that hijab was not really common in our society until recently and especially in Baghdad. What we used to see is that ladies as they approach their fifties would then start contemplating the idea and even then not many of them would go for it. In the last few years and due to the socioeconomic conditions in Iraq (mainly the economic embargo and suppression of freedom, of women especially) and the rise of the Islamic movements as a result mainly due to poverty and wider spread of ignorance, we started seeing more and more women wear Hijab. After the last war, we all know that almost all women in the red zone were forced to wear hijab and some of them were not even Muslims fearing death by the so called Islamic militias (Sunni and Shiite). My guess is that your friend E is one of these women whom are caught in this dilemma. I am not a religious person and I was brought up by a typical Iraqi parents (not religious but not liberal either) so if you ask me, I think what a person wears does not define how good or bad that person is nor it will tell that this person is going to go to heaven or hell as some religious people would try to imply. It is what you do is what really counts. Otherwise all the non-Muslim women in the world (and all the non-hijab wearing Muslim women) would go to hell and we all know that this is Cr*p. If you go back to the Quran, there is hardly a clear mention of it and in fact it was only clearly mentioned for the wives of Prophet Mohammad. If you ask me, I would say to your friend to take it off. If she really feels that hijab will make her the good Muslim woman she is, then she’d better re-think the idea of moving to the States in the first place. I am generally against anybody who would dress in a special way to tell the world that they are following a certain religion or sect. That tells me that it is their inability to prove how good believers they are (by actions, not words, not clothing) that makes them wear something different. I have come across, many many times, people wearing what gave me the impression that they should be really good honest human beings but I was consistently proven wrong with the exception of a couple of times. I'm not talking about Islam only here by the way. To be honest, I am now very skeptical and suspicious of anybody who wears clothing to tell me that he is following one religion or another. It makes me more suspicious since most of them use that to cover the real persons behind these masks and you know what I mean. This applies to most of the Iraqi politicians by the way! Usama-Vancouver

November 10, 2007 at 1:02 AM  

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November 10, 2007 at 1:52 AM  

Tucker- gosh, your intelligence is so clear for all to see. idiot.

Neurotica- An American perspective:
My opionion is not based on whether it's right or wrong to wear an hijab, more based on practicalness. On the rare occasion that I see a woman wear a hijab, at the store, library,or place of business there seems to be a uncomfortable vibe with the people all around. A woman who wears a hijab doesn't seem to be recieved the same as others around. So if the desire is to do well with new friends, meet new friends or find good work I'd say don't wear it.

I bet she figures this out quick, and stops wearing it on her own.

Just being real, right or wrong.

November 10, 2007 at 6:07 AM  

Neurotica- "guilt"? as a reason to help someone? Not likely. Why do you think Americans volunteer to fight in Iraq (and sometimes die), money?,oil?, because they have to?, guilt? Not likely. "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", "love your nieghbor", "love your enemy", "if you give even a cup of water in my name....", much more likely.

"Let him who desires peace prepare for war" - Flavius Vegetius Renatus

because evil will never give up.

November 10, 2007 at 6:27 AM  

Well I guess the majority are saying that E should remove her hijab. Thats interesting. I dunno, I have mixed feelings abt that. But I think at the end of the day, this is exactly what she is gonna do. She said she doesnt want to spoil her chances in getting a job and give the wrong perception.

Although I personally would have stood my grounds, my attitude would be this is me and if they dont like it then thats their problem. But thats just me. In E's case its a completely different ball game. She is going to the States, to start a new life. Infact, she is going to the States to have a life. So yes, probably the majority of you are right. Lets hope it all works out for the best no matter what she decided. And btw, thanks for your all your comments and encouragement. I dont give up easily to ignorant comments. Im a fighter. I may have lost the plot, but I will continue to blog. Whether its irrelevant or ludicrous to many, its pretty much my only venting place....

November 10, 2007 at 6:50 AM  

Hi NIW :)

Back again...sorry Im takin so long to email you about Australian tourist sites etc, but Ive had exams, and i just finished so ill get to it asap. I just need your email.

About your friend...I know I’m younger and maybe less experienced, but I do stand by the fact that Allah puts all of us through tough times just to test how much he really means to us. Your friend seems like she’s going through one of those times, and I do believe that she needs no one atm as much as she needs Allah, and to be strong is very hard, but it can also strengthen her abilities to stand by what she truly believes in. SOooo, I don’t think she has to take it off because she’s scared or inexperienced or whatever, because in times of difficulty and heartache, Allah will always be there to stand by her side, just as long as she stands by his. No one has a right to judge her but the one above her…so she’s got nothing to worry about.

I hope your taking care of yourself :)
Allah Wiyach
alacoacoa

November 10, 2007 at 4:02 PM  

America - Free country

November 10, 2007 at 4:05 PM  

Neurotic--- a side note;

Another reason for not wearing hijab is that it's pretty hard to practice Islam fully in the US (except maybe Dearborn, MIch.). Men won't be having more than one wife, it's against the law. You can't treat women as harshly, I have never seen a Muslim stop to pray during the day, and Jihad in free Smalltown, USA isn't in your best interest. Even Ramadan is marginally recognized. So why wear hijab if evrything else is not observed?

November 10, 2007 at 4:46 PM  

They just re-released a video game for the Xbox. The Title of the Game was "The Orange Box". The connectivity of fighting actual bureaucratic reign and escaping the caste of third eye slave systemology. Bullets hurt! Shareware culture presented in poor to poor sharing conflicts a region of discipline noted for conquering immature and selfish dispute in trials involving self-gratification and limiting freedom, choice and learning. More importantly communication without the intended resolve featuring manipulation and slave trade possession has yielded the ability for something such as a head shank to be something worth wearing for the goddamn joy of improving the world. You gangsters should wear plastic lined Easter Bunny suits because all our couches are covered in Beer and Sex. Yeah the Museum for the Couldn't Evolve and a term mediocre namely Teamwork. Sex, Lies and videotape are still the only weapons. Who wants to see the old weapons? Exhausted MENTAL STRESS subscriber NIW's recently installed Pride Prejudice boundary system..."EXHAUSTION" will be regarded in compact reasoning advice criteria... What the fuck else is there to do while living? RATIONALIZE KILL PEOPLE INSTEAD OF FUCKING PEOPLE...THE WEAPON KNOWN AS SEX FATTY!!! and IT is just like rehab I don't no why you people moved me to cosmetology? little Typo? is she mine?

November 10, 2007 at 7:03 PM  

*I.T. Information Technologies my old job before becoming a slave.

November 10, 2007 at 7:06 PM  

complementing julie's arguments, it's important to remember that hijab in seen in west not as an optional accessory but as an imposition to islamic women, a sign of submission. not a good impression if you intend to build a life on your own.

November 10, 2007 at 10:10 PM  

I think she should wear the hijab. Once the family realizes the person under it, they'll change their mind about islam.
a religion doesn't make a person, anymore than the country in which they live. Hypocrites and idiots live the world over and in all religions.

"you have to be somone to yourself, before you can be anything to someone else." Me

November 11, 2007 at 12:00 AM  

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November 11, 2007 at 12:00 AM  

NIW...
maybe you are anemic (iron deficient). have someone send you iron tablets and see if it helps. If it's depression, leave. no job is worth that.

November 11, 2007 at 12:16 AM  

I thought Islamic thought was like the twisting rays of the Sun? The paradigmatic acquisition of value through celebratory sacrilege before the covenant and gathered communal understanding as wisdom magnifies belief in cycled permission for identifying reality? Why did you AMerican slime lords kill "E"? Cochran defense. or something... Yeah they learned the word submission, yeah they made it to level Lesbo justice let's go have dinner in America!!!

November 11, 2007 at 12:24 AM  

Johnny Cochran says,"WEAR THE BLOODY HAT!"

November 11, 2007 at 12:25 AM  

JULES LUV ,JULES ARE YOU GOING TO COMMENT ABOUT THAT ANON`S JIBBERISH?????????????????TRIPE

November 11, 2007 at 2:23 AM  

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November 11, 2007 at 2:33 AM  

Is this Jules character "She Garfield"? Thinking Brits who Fuck???

November 11, 2007 at 2:35 AM  

Gettin a job has nothing to do with Hijab. So many muslim ladies get jobs and do a fantastic job while wearing it. Giving the wrong perception is also not the issue. She shouldnt care what other people think to fit in.

November 11, 2007 at 2:55 AM  

Anon- ".....I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue....stop thinking like children." Why? Because children are selfish. It's obvious that you are "wise in your own eyes" which does no good. It's a shame because you seem to be compotent, unlike some others(tucker). It's all about selfishness. All of it. You mentioned in a past post about "choice". Yes, choice. Do you choose you? Is that what this life is about? You? Say what you mean (puss!), I don't need to be impressed with your genius.

Speaking of choice & selfishness..... I've been bothered by Neurotica's comment about the people helping out E because of guilt. guilt. guilt.

You see, some people help out of unselfishness, it's what they were made to do. I'm sure there are some ignorant people who buy into the media/liberal/selfish/uninformed attitude about the war on terror. But that doesn't change the fact that most people in the US will help because they are unselfish. It's the ultimate action of love. What we were made to do. I know some of the bloggers here don't believe in God but let's do a "what if". WHAT IF there was a God. Why did he create people? He already had angels. The Bible, Koran and Torah each teach that God created angels first, so why create humans?...........Because He is after a certain kind of love. Unselfish love. Love by choice (anon?). If your spouse loved you because someone held a gun to his/her head, how would you feel? If they made you breakfast in the morning, took the trash out, listened to what you had to say at the end of the day or just rubbed your back, because they were forced to, how would you feel about that? Or, if out of choice, they did all those things and loved you out of their own free will, and did it all because they thought of your needs above their own? Which way seems better?Perfect love. Unselfish. Sacrificial. Yes Anon, choice. Do you love you? Is that what it's all about? Is that what you were taught as a kid? Look out for #1? Probably. You will never be satisfied until you practice unselfishness. And unfortunatly I never see this practiced in Islam. That's the real problem. You see Neurotica, we will sacrifice ourselves for others in America. Muslims, on the other hand, will never be happy until they practice unselfishness, and I don't see that happening soon. Telling someone they MUST accept God(Allah) or die, (or pay more taxes), is never going to be fulfilling or successful. Never. Aqain why make humans? To force them to love Him? He already had that with the angels, it's more than that. Unselfishness. Choice. Sacrifice. America is built on it. That's why E wants to come here. And Islam will never provide it.

Spoken out of love, not condemnation.

Jules.

November 11, 2007 at 3:43 AM  

If Sacrifice is a necessary component we aren't living fairly. Sacrifice is part of an unhealthy system where balance is removed for the Art of Subversion. Take the trash out and if you fall someone in your caste will be there to take your place. If you love you, you'll fall with the trust of your following. Emancipated by the gratification of belief. Be strong and take the trash to the waste receptacle, tomorrow is a new day. oh yeah as part of our new Myth workshop we will be using curse words as to identify realities which are really fucked up'd and scary? Okay? cool cause I'm sober like the Host not the Blood let's Rock 'n Roll!

November 11, 2007 at 7:04 AM  

I thought Islamic thought was like the twisting rays of the Sun? 1The paradigmatic acquisition of value through celebratory sacrilege 2before the covenant and gathered communal understanding 3as wisdom magnifies belief in cycled permission for identifying reality?

November 11, 2007 at 7:36 AM  

Wisdom calls aloud in the street, she raises her voice in the public squares; at the head of the noisy streets she cries out, in the gateways of the city she makes her speech; "How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools (anon?) hate knowledge?

Until they die. Wrapped up in being "wise in their own eyes"

November 11, 2007 at 1:43 PM  

Let's Rock 'N Roll. Go in peace my children.

November 11, 2007 at 4:53 PM  

Non-subversive Adult English and we'll need a Chemist. No not a LOve DOctor a DRUG Doctor and America made a lot of TV has anyone noticed? Anyone? Alright the Middle East has got Cancer, No big deal. I mean they Got Cancer like reoccurring Malignancy in hopes of making better scriptures for the future of reality everyone is gay. Well the BAttle of the Bands is raging over in the sand area. Well if they need help establishing reality they should definitely separate church and state. We'll call Omniscience the Military cause we're gonna have to keep war happening cause the Gay isn't allowed to watch the Home Decorating Channel up to and during Xeon Flex Continuum. We also need transportation with a redundancy outfit, I guess we'll have to fire the sexy gas car. The Middle East is where all the porn comes from so we need all the Men over there tyrannical and the women must have the option to turn blood red if they ever "choose" to witness Man Ankle, the end.

November 11, 2007 at 5:20 PM  

Really, it's not a big deal. She'll get some comments, of course, but most people will be fine with it. I have a friend who wears it for less than religious reasons, and she'll get some comments occasionally, but mostly it's fine. (IE: It's ok, Jesus loves you anyway.)
All I have to suggest it that she be willing to maybe remove it for a female DMV person so they can get a decent picture for the records.

November 12, 2007 at 1:45 AM  

NIW,
It's her call. There's no law over here prohibitting anyone from wearing any sort of think (there are laws if someone walks around naked, they get arrested for indecent exposure). I think the hijab might attract some undue attention to her, then again, it might not. It all depends where in the US is she going to live but I think it won't be a problem, in general, for her.

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November 12, 2007 at 4:48 AM  

Rumor has it that some of your friends are so home sick that they are comeing back to Iraq.

November 12, 2007 at 3:22 PM  

I wouldn't hire someone wearing the head scarf thingy. I won't travel with them either. If I see someone in a burqa or wearing a hijab in the waiting area,I catch the next flight. Call me insensitive,intolerant,or whatever else you like. These hoilier than thou people irk my nerves. People should keep their religion to themselves,not wear it on their heads.

November 12, 2007 at 8:14 PM  

Iraqi wife, I'm so sorry you get these ignorant hateful comments. Please know that they do not represent most Americans/Caucasians/Christians,
etc.

I think hijab is such a personal choice.

If I was a business owner, I would hire a woman who wears hijab. In the United States that is an expression of freedom of religion that should be respected. (Although ignorant people may decline the job without saying why - so yes, it could cause a problem in some circumstances, unfortuantely.)

I'm sorry that you're feeling sad. Iraqis are having to deal with so many "good byes" as friends and family leave the country... {HUGS}

November 13, 2007 at 4:08 AM  

My 5cents worth: I think she should continue to wear it if she truly believes she should as a muslim women. People should NOT forget one of the biggest concepts in our beautiful religion: Tawakul (reliance on Allah)! It's not that piece of cloth that will get her a job, help her make friends or help her integrate better into a society...but like you say it's how she's like as a person and how she deals with people. We should have tawakul in all our daily affairs whenever we're not sure about something. If a person is scared or nervous about a particular issue, then he/she should seriously think about it (pros and cons), make duaa, make a decision and just do it - believing that Allah will bless and help them throughout!

I disagree with most of people that have commented here and most are seeing this hijab issue as a stand-alone issue and not realising that this is part of someone’s belief.

I’ve been living in western country for many years now I proudly wear my hijab. I’ve never ever experience discrimination in my field of work, in shopping centres, out in the streets or anywhere else. Yes I get funny looks and yes when I start a new job people are a bit watchful but that all changes once I open my mouth. I’m as normal as anybody else and they soon find that out too…
Positive

November 13, 2007 at 5:38 AM  

You claim to be Iraqi. You claim to be helping Iraqis.

Why don't you converse with the Iraqi People?

All you talk about is trival plushy matters, especially compared to the situation the Iraq People, out in the "red zone" - which you are barely familier with - (thanx USA!).

You find it lucrative, don't you? That's why you're there, isn't it?

If you really cared about Iraqi People, you wouldn't spend months hiding behind a fortified wall where everyday civilians couldn't reach you. You'd be out there engaging in Iraqi culture, people, lifestyle.

You'd be Iraqi before you called yourself Iraqi.

November 13, 2007 at 7:11 AM  

Why don't you eat cheese steak? Don't you want a cheese steak?

November 13, 2007 at 11:10 PM  

Hey NIW,
I'm a Muslim American who wears hijab in the states, and has gotten jobs easily with my hijab on. Tell E to be strong! America is really open-minded, and that's why we love it. If she needs any thing, let her email me.

November 14, 2007 at 12:35 AM  

Like if I were to Say Neurotic Iraqi Mother. That's what we need around the house an "E" whatever the fuck that is? Bless us our Lord as these our kids who are about to be named. I am the Mother. Let us draw attention away from ourselves and seek our praise... in the helplessness of others. Amen.

I hope she locates another benefactor of the Hijab or her Mom gets her a Kaleidoscope for finding Hijuslim. Man I'm worried she can live here if she converts to Chicanism. Does she ponder the rights of Mexitude, cause it's awesome Lady. Yeah I guess they all smoke Marijuana have you ever watched TV from the 1970's? Cause America is stunning! Shh shh The Hawaiian Tropic lady has a problem, her daughter has a religion no one can know about. I know she's like so embarrassed her water got turned into Sun Tan Lotion cause America sucks. Yeah great big googly eyes like a Puerto Rican walnut, Yeah I say love just smelling New Beach Scent, mmmm Hog Heaven, grumbldiddlyumble!!!!!!!!

November 15, 2007 at 1:07 AM  

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November 15, 2007 at 7:55 AM  

I see a lot of Muslim women here in Philadelphia wearing Hijab. I also heard that California is the a good place too since everyone is free to do whatever he/she wants.

I suggests she comes to Philadelphia.It's a wonderful city with a lot of opportunities.

I also met some new Iraqis who came to Philly. I guess some of them are your friends.

I hope you are doing well.

BT

PS- Once, one of my Iraqi friends was asked if we Iraqis still use camels for transportation. With his high sense of humor, my friend said "No, unfortunately, we drive cars"! He made everyone laugh at the guy who asked this question!

Also, an American woman asked me one day why I am not wearing "dishdasha" and why I am "dressed up like Americans." I told her this is how we are dressed in Iraq! she was shocked and apologized for how misinformed Americans are here in terms of Arabs and the way they look.

November 15, 2007 at 10:45 PM  

I'm surprised that noone mentioned that in America there are laws that prevent employer's from discriminating for race or religious purposes. If E is refused a job for wearing hijab she should contact the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) immediately.

November 16, 2007 at 12:06 AM  

Hello

I am a Blackfoot Indian, and all the people that come to 'our' land wear what they did in 'their' old country. We have people from every country in the World here. So to me, it doesn't matter what she wears here.

November 16, 2007 at 3:21 PM  

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November 16, 2007 at 3:38 PM  

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November 16, 2007 at 7:02 PM  

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November 17, 2007 at 2:11 AM  

You have gotten all kinds of comments, I see. About the couple that offered E a place to stay - Americans do that, it has nothing to do with feeling guilty about what the government does or does not do. It is just helping your neighbor. About wearing the hajib, it is really up to her. I like it and I am not Muslim. I think that it says something very nice about the woman wearing it.

January 8, 2008 at 12:22 AM  

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